is this normal?

[Jess]

This aint a subject bout Hezballah or any 7ezeb else!
The pic was an example and we are here to discuss the social problem bout kids participating in such عرض عسكري

Thats the whole problem,so Kindly stick to the topic plz!

[KeXasthur]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

When I see the replies here, I start to see the kind of deep s**t we are in!!

Who the hell are you to force the kids to love someone and hate someone??? it's up to the kids to make the connections!!! you just have to teach them right from wrong!!! That's why you tell them the story of Blanche neige w medreh mine, you teach them what's right 3a ad rassone, w you teach them what's wrong 3a ad rassone w when they grow up they make the connection, You raise kids like that you get a band of brainwashed kids ma byoussalo la ma7al b7ayetone, and what does the military uniform have to do with them hatting Israel, uno if his parents died w he didn't wear it ra7 yotla3 bi 7eb Israel??? If Dany Chamoun kids didn't were the army uniform they will end up against dany ya3neh???? leich do they know what they are supporting, all they know is that they are supporting dad! mich aktar!

w Ba3dena if you where in a crazy school w machoukone ma ba3rif kif w 3a2adoukone, why the hell are you doing that to kids now????? do they even know what they are doing??? do you think they will object eza ma 3ajabone???

Originally Posted by BG

pics of kids with rockets, kids that YOU say that they are dying and they dont know why they are dying!
we talked in the past about brainwashing.. this is brainwashing.
kissing iranian hands, and if you dont kiss it, you will enter HELL!

this is the civilisation, this is the dream of "lebanon" i dont know in the future we will say so-called lebanon
bass mesh l 7a2 3layon.. l 7a2 3ala their parents!

I don't even know why this subject is being discussed. There are more stuff that are influencing kids and hurting them than toy guns and parades for supporting the resistance that symbolizes heroism for them.

[sarah32]

How can u say it's not a brainwash ! it IS !!!!!!!!!!! u r forcing kids 2 believe in what u believe ! in every familly there's a black sheep and what if this kid was this black sheep ? he has the right to be this sheep ... u c ? u cant force him to be what u want ... if i raise my children about the perfect aoun and the aoun yaleh ma byoghlat of course they'll grow up loving aoun ... but r we always right ? what if my kid was thinking with another ideology ? shall i take this from him ? sorry but this is pure brain washing ... iz ken 7akeh or lebes or whatever ... the kids r brainwashed ... their life is now 7asab ma ahlon bedon ... and yeah when they grow up theyll tell u "no ana me2teni3" akid bedo ykoun me2teni3 mazel he was growing up with the same perfect picture and no choice ... eno ma 3ando shi teneh ye2teni3 fi ..

[koukiazzzz]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

When I see the replies here, I start to see the kind of deep s**t we are in!!

Who the hell are you to force the kids to love someone and hate someone??? it's up to the kids to make the connections!!! you just have to teach them right from wrong!!! That's why you tell them the story of Blanche neige w medreh mine, you teach them what's right 3a ad rassone, w you teach them what's wrong 3a ad rassone w when they grow up they make the connection, You raise kids like that you get a band of brainwashed kids ma byoussalo la ma7al b7ayetone, and what does the military uniform have to do with them hatting Israel, uno if his parents died w he didn't wear it ra7 yotla3 bi 7eb Israel??? If Dany Chamoun kids didn't were the army uniform they will end up against dany ya3neh???? leich do they know what they are supporting, all they know is that they are supporting dad! mich aktar!

w Ba3dena if you where in a crazy school w machoukone ma ba3rif kif w 3a2adoukone, why the hell are you doing that to kids now????? do they even know what they are doing??? do you think they will object eza ma 3ajabone???

Originally Posted by BG

pics of kids with rockets, kids that YOU say that they are dying and they dont know why they are dying!
we talked in the past about brainwashing.. this is brainwashing.
kissing iranian hands, and if you dont kiss it, you will enter HELL!

this is the civilisation, this is the dream of "lebanon" i dont know in the future we will say so-called lebanon
bass mesh l 7a2 3layon.. l 7a2 3ala their parents!

Originally Posted by jess

For the last time i repeat this thread is bout a social prob! and not political!

Again and as usual many are missing the point.
you teach them 3a ad rasson >>>>>> ya3nni when their family is killed in a brutal air attack we tell them it is SUPERMAN or SPIDERMAN.

You both cant seem to understand that they grow up in this entourage and they were raised in a WAR ZONE.

The south is a war zone not Disney land, people get killed everyday by bombs left from israelis airplanes in form of toys. the UN goes to schools to teach these poor kids how not to touch these cluster bombs. It is nice what you are saying but you seem to forget that they are under direct fire.

Please wake up

[koukiazzzz]

Originally Posted by sarah32

How can u say it's not a brainwash ! it IS !!!!!!!!!!! u r forcing kids 2 believe in what u believe ! in every familly there's a black sheep and what if this kid was this black sheep ? he has the right to be this sheep ... u c ? u cant force him to be what u want ... if i raise my children about the perfect aoun and the aoun yaleh ma byoghlat of course they'll grow up loving aoun ... but r we always right ? what if my kid was thinking with another ideology ? shall i take this from him ? sorry but this is pure brain washing ... iz ken 7akeh or lebes or whatever ... the kids r brainwashed ... their life is now 7asab ma ahlon bedon ... and yeah when they grow up theyll tell u "no ana me2teni3" akid bedo ykoun me2teni3 mazel he was growing up with the same perfect picture and no choice ... eno ma 3ando shi teneh ye2teni3 fi ..

Brainwash Sara ?? where is Braiwash ?
when you leave your house and you return to find it in ruins what are the parents supposed to say to their kids ?
Please answer me

[abousoun]

Well if you want to discuss the topic from a generalized point of view, children should be away from any sight of cruel act ...

but if we are discussing this picture, we should discuss the circumstances of this pic ...
If this pic was taken in switzerland i'll say what the hell they are doing ?!!! eno why they are dressed like this and walking in a parade? what's the reason ? but as i said in my first post ... in lebanon it's normal (and some other arabic countries)

In a country where children where raised on the sound of canons, tell me what you gonna say to those kids ? till when you are going to tell them these are fireworks ? and they'll be over soon ?
when a child sees such horrible thing ...

are his parents brainwashing him ? are his parents tell him hate that and love this ? lak for god sake he doesn't have parents anymore !!!!

you talk like if we are living in the "al madina el fadila taba3 aflaton" ...
i said in an earlier post "el ensein ebn bi2to" that's literature 101, you'll see the son of village writes poetry about his village and the son of city writes poems about his city ... it's all about the bi2a ...
provide a good bi2a for those kids and then let's discuss this issue

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

You raise kids like that you get a band of brainwashed kids ma byoussalo la ma7al b7ayetone

That's a kind of brainwash you have that you belief that such kids ma byoussalo la ma7al bi7ayeton ...
1700 young graduates who were just like those little kids, graduated few months ago in the biggest ceremony for graduates lebanon had ever have ...
do you think that they dropped their education because they beleive, why should i study the enemy gonna kill me or i'll get my self martyred?
i was raised on such a belief, and i like to think that wssolt la ma7al bi7ayete ... el 3atra 3alli ba3d ma wessil ...

Originally Posted by BG

kissing iranian hands, and if you dont kiss it, you will enter HELL!

Man who talk like this ? ... wait wait i know ... you have a friend in da7yeh and he told you this and he is proud of that

All of us are brainwashed in some sort of way ... so instead of throwing accusations right and left ... work on yourselves ... and ask yourselves are we different from those ? are we better than them ?

Thank You ...

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by General Rami

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how could people make from kids a way to war and a hand in the blood hole atfal l mousta2bal li 3am bi 3icho min l echya l bech3a wel aher ?? hole l nour li ra7 yersom de7ke ?? hole li meteklin yebno wa5tan ??? heik menrabiyon !!...

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by lf rabieh

there is a serious probleme....this is wht called "sakafit el mawt"
enno why?? i know it isn't a disaster or somthing but is so wrong and as lebanese_a said

wearing an army uniform mesh howwe yally bi3a22id l kids and teachs them wt u called "saqafit el mawt"
if u want 2 raise ur kids peacefully 3zeloun bi 2ouda la 7aloun w dnt let any1 talk 2 them and teach them l 2eshya yally baddak yeha cz these kids saro 2aw3a menna w mn our parents and our grand parents wa2ta keino bi 3omroun and everything that happens around them we3yin 3lei. a simple discussion with ur wife has the same effect as the war pix they c on tv . a computer game like CS betwa33youn 3a heik 2eshya w bet3allemoun sa2afit l mot

Originally Posted by sarah32

FUTURE LEADERS u said it ! but what if this little girl in the first pic thinks more like the future movement and not like hezzeb allah .. are they letting her choose her way ? i dont think so ... lavage de cerveau men heneh w zghar ... in all parties ! and thats the biggest prob in leb ... and that's what makes us c eno our gov doesnt and will never change ...

iza our kids knew wt political party we love this dsnt mean than we're brainwashing them la anno everything in lebanon is related 2 politics.iza the parents ma 7ekyouwoun shi they'll hear abt this subject everywhere even at skul
ba3dein IN THE FIRST PIC there is NO WAY that this girl thinks like any party other than hezeb allah why?la anno we3yit 3a this world seing her father/uncle/big brother/cousin or anyone she knws fighting with hezeb allah against an enemy that ruined her life killed her relatives and deprived her of living the childhood many of u talked abt

Originally Posted by koukiazzzz

According to this logic ,which I would agree 100 % if we were in the South of France and not in the South of Lebanon, if a child who lost his whole family in one of Israeli massacres asks where is my family, the answer should be that they went to play with Barbie or that Harry Poter made them disappear.

You are blaming the victims for losing their innocence.
In deed they lost their innocence because they face violence and brutality. To them these weapons is self defense and a proof of their existence.

How do you think any resistence flourishes. It is a simple reaction to oppression. You cany blame the victims for defending themselves.
You can't blame a child who lost all his dear one to ask for vengeance.
this is human nature. Instead of jusging them, put yourlself at their places and shred a tear on their misery.

that's exactly what i'm talking abt

[sarah32]

mandy it's wrong to show ur child ur political side ... coz usually kids at young age wana b like their parents ... and if they always hear bashing a party and honoring another they'll grow up with the same idea ... But if they hear about parties at school they'll be hearing many point of views ... coz as we all know that school is a socialising place ... so can find men kel shi ...u can tell ur kids about all parties and tell then the TRUTH not what u think ... and the biggest prob in lebanon that kel shi runs in the familly ... and its wrong ... those kidss have the right to choose who they wana b with ... and dont tell me that when they grow up they ll choose coz all of their lifes they heard their parents bashing other parties so how can they another party ... ma they only heard about 1 party's positif stuff ...

And when it comes to the south's case... a kid bayo w 3amo w khayo died fighting israel .. shou bi adim iza bet labsou badlit jesh/ Hezeb w bet mashou 3a tari2 holding a gun ? what if this kid when he grows up ma bedo ykoun a soldier ? what if he grows up and wanted to be a hippy ? ( PEACE!) he cant ! coz he was raised to be a soldier n to die like his father coz "this is the right thing to do" or when u raise ur kids with the idea of "americans are bad" and this kid gets a gr88888 chance to work in an american company and he gets a gr8 salary .. do u think he'll take it ? no he wonT ! coz he learned that "americans r bad"(which is not the case coz it's all abt politics and americans r not bad ... it's the regime just like in syria but anyways)and instead of living a proper life with a gr8 future he'll turn out to be a soldier who'll die in the south and who's kids will learn to hate america and die in the south just coz the parents decides so ...
BTW a kid with a gun is not a cute thing to c ... if he's already sad because of his parents dying the right thing to do is try 2 cheer him up with kids games and stuff his age and not give him a gun and ask him to yente2im la ahlo .. this is barbarian .. sorry ...

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by sarah32

coz as we all know that school is a socialising place ... so can find men kel shi...

what schools u mean ? makassid schools, el mahdi schools, walla el lycee saint ma barif min school ? if schools are not agreeing on a united history book, how come they'll get to know about everything ?
you are still missing the big point in this issue which is "LEBANON"

Originally Posted by sarah32

u can tell ur kids about all parties and tell then the TRUTH not what u think ...

the problem is what they think, is what they consider the truth ...

Originally Posted by sarah32

And when it comes to the south's case... a kid bayo w 3amo w khayo died fighting israel .. shou bi adim iza bet labsou badlit jesh/ Hezeb w bet mashou 3a tari2 holding a gun?

you know when someone dies in a battle, they give his son his suit and his gun... chou bet2addim aw bet2a5ir hal gesture ? it's a symbolism, it's act of respect

Originally Posted by sarah32

what if this kid when he grows up ma bedo ykoun a soldier ? what if he grows up and wanted to be a hippy ? ( PEACE!) he cant ! coz he was raised to be a soldier n to die like his father coz "this is the right thing to do"

so when you buy your kid a set of medical games, then your son will be a doctor?
who said that everyone of these kids will become a soldier ? you are having this missconcept ... that every kid in this parade will become a fighter and he will kill or get killed ...
if you read my earlier post you'll know how many college graduates they have from doctors, lawyer, engineers, teachers, etc ... and most of these kids were raised in such a way i guess ...
being mouqawim is not only holding a gun you know ... and this rocket the girl is holding can represent a sthetoscope, a pen, a hammer ...

Originally Posted by sarah32

or when u raise ur kids with the idea of "americans are bad" and this kid gets a gr88888 chance to work in an american company and he gets a gr8 salary .. do u think he'll take it ? no he wonT ! coz he learned that "americans r bad"(which is not the case coz it's all abt politics and americans r not bad ... it's the regime just like in syria but anyways)and instead of living a proper life with a gr8 future he'll turn out to be a soldier who'll die in the south and who's kids will learn to hate america and die in the south just coz the parents decides so ...

you answered yourself in this part by saying it's about the regime not the country itself ... and children learn this ... our problem is not with people, it's with the regime ... we are hearing this each day
and then you went back to the soldier issue discussed above

Originally Posted by sarah32

BTW a kid with a gun is not a cute thing to c ... if he's already sad because of his parents dying the right thing to do is try 2 cheer him up with kids games and stuff his age and not give him a gun and ask him to yente2im la ahlo .. this is barbarian .. sorry ...

blame the toy factories lakan who make machine guns toys ...
and the barbarian thing is what's happening to them, the bloody scenes they got to see ...
2 kids same age, one lived all his years in usa, the other was raised in lebanon are gathered in the same house ... on the sound of a bullet, the first kid wet his pants, the second kid was sleeping ...
i said earlier put them in a different bi2a and let's discuss this issue

Thank You ...