Samir Geagea

[flamenguita]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

Hala2 one final thing.
A lot of people here attack Geagea 3al tali3 w l nezil about his past, they are free to do that, bass the problem is that they usually do it when the subject is his present and sara7a I only see it as a failure to criticize his present so they turn to his past but that's not a good option to anyone specially when the "size" of his past mistakes are questionable knowing the whole war is a mistake.
Ya3neh sara7a, you'll only get people to hate him up to a certain time by criticizing his past bass finally the people that didn't receive bombs from Geagea or that received bombs from Aoun and Geagea will not really care, and believe me that's happening!

Samir Geagea has a irreversible past, and present also, there is nothing called 3al tali3 wel nezil regarding him. He prooved till now and after getting out from jail, that he is a puppet and a card played by the 14 feb gang just to attack GMA with a christian opponent to him. And they used specifically Geagea becoz of the bloody histrory between FPM and LF.From when Geagea is going with the naturalising of the palestinians, becoz we all know that this is the real target of the 14 feb gang in increasing the sunni votes by 200.000 and making the christian youth emmigrate in order to establish the palestinians in their place. This is the price that Lebanon must pay to the USA so that the 45 billion dollars that hariri clan put on the country for their own interest will be erased. Geagea isn't a master of his decisions, he is a slave of his own dream of ruling the christian sector by a federalism system. He showed us that the present followed the past on the 23rd of January by letting his disciplies attack the FPmers and shoot them. He isn't empowering the presidency position by attacking Lahoud, he is putting the only christian authority under the feet of the sunni political system.So the criminal mind and the militia behavior is still there. It all came back to the spotlight as his followers chanted to their master:" Ouwet lebneniye..hiye eli bte7me el shar2iye."

Just look at the vision of the country they want to build and tell me if the attacks are justified or not.

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by flamenguita

Samir Geagea has a irreversible past, and present also, there is nothing called 3al tali3 wel nezil regarding him. He prooved till now and after getting out from jail, that he is a puppet and a card played by the 14 feb gang just to attack GMA with a christian opponent to him. And they used specifically Geagea becoz of the bloody histrory between FPM and LF.

Actually Geagea 2a2ala wa7ad that attacks GMA, u have some FM and PSP MPs specialized in this and many others christian people doing that (dory, carlos...) a lot more then Geagea is.

Originally Posted by flamenguita

From when Geagea is going with the naturalising of the palestinians, becoz we all know that this is the real target of the 14 feb gang in increasing the sunni votes by 200.000 and making the christian youth emmigrate in order to establish the palestinians in their place. This is the price that Lebanon must pay to the USA so that the 45 billion dollars that hariri clan put on the country for their own interest will be erased.

You're talking about two things here, awal chi about the naturalization of Palestinians and what's good in it for Sunnist, well I can't defend this point but Sunnis deny this, it's for you to believe or not, bass one thing is sure that's the only thing the majority's opinion (and here I am talking about the majority of people walla gov walla m3arada) is against.
The second point is about the dept, well Lebanon's dept is mainly internal and even the external one is not from the US (aw chi ktir allil from the US) so I don't know how this really matters.

Originally Posted by flamenguita

Geagea isn't a master of his decisions, he is a slave of his own dream of ruling the christian sector by a federalism system. He showed us that the present followed the past on the 23rd of January by letting his disciplies attack the FPmers and shoot them. He isn't empowering the presidency position by attacking Lahoud, he is putting the only christian authority under the feet of the sunni political system.So the criminal mind and the militia behavior is still there. It all came back to the spotlight as his followers chanted to their master:" Ouwet lebneniye..hiye eli bte7me el shar2iye."

One thing is sure l ouwet l lebneniyeh l 7aliyeh mab te7meh l char2iyeh, about the weakening of the presidency well I personally think that the president l 7aleh and the one before him 7ato l presidency bil ared so I don't know how weaker it can get.
One last thing, Geagea never talked about federalism since the time he left jail, You keep accusing him of wanting it like it's a crime, I don't care if he still supports it or not bass the sure thing is that federalism is not a crime!

Originally Posted by flamenguita

Just look at the vision of the country they want to build and tell me if the attacks are justified or not.

You're talking here about a vision, a vision is for the future, and you're attacking the past, well the least you can do is attack the future eza this vision hal2ad mich taye2tiya.

[FriendOfZeus]

Heres what i think about geagea.
For example, if you take an enraged dog, a dog that has killed many other dogs, ate his tale and so much salliva is pouring out of his mouth you would think hes the embassador of nayagra falls. Clearly this is a sadistic, rage filled, flee infested, murderous dog. And u imprison it, by force, in jail for 11 years and then release it.
What do u think he'll be feeling when he gets out?
-Is it is an overwhelming feeling of anger, uncontrolabe rage, the unstoppabe urge for revenge?
-Or will he come out acting like a saint, wanting to redeem all of his wrong doings?

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by friendofzeus

Heres what i think about geagea.
For example, if you take an enraged dog, a dog that has killed many other dogs, ate his tale and so much salliva is pouring out of his mouth you would think hes the embassador of nayagra falls. Clearly this is a sadistic, rage filled, flee infested, murderous dog. And u imprison it, by force, in jail for 11 years and then release it.
What do u think he'll be feeling when he gets out?
-Is it is an overwhelming feeling of anger, uncontrolabe rage, the unstoppabe urge for revenge?
-Or will he come out acting like a saint, wanting to redeem all of his wrong doings?

well here you're just questioning the whole purpose of jail!

[flamenguita]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

Actually Geagea 2a2ala wa7ad that attacks GMA, u have some FM and PSP MPs specialized in this and many others christian people doing that (dory, carlos...) a lot more then Geagea is.

You're talking about two things here, awal chi about the naturalization of Palestinians and what's good in it for Sunnist, well I can't defend this point but Sunnis deny this, it's for you to believe or not, bass one thing is sure that's the only thing the majority's opinion (and here I am talking about the majority of people walla gov walla m3arada) is against.
The second point is about the dept, well Lebanon's dept is mainly internal and even the external one is not from the US (aw chi ktir allil from the US) so I don't know how this really matters.

One thing is sure l ouwet l lebneniyeh l 7aliyeh mab te7meh l char2iyeh, about the weakening of the presidency well I personally think that the president l 7aleh and the one before him 7ato l presidency bil ared so I don't know how weaker it can get.
One last thing, Geagea never talked about federalism since the time he left jail, You keep accusing him of wanting it like it's a crime, I don't care if he still supports it or not bass the sure thing is that federalism is not a crime!

You're talking here about a vision, a vision is for the future, and you're attacking the past, well the least you can do is attack the future eza this vision hal2ad mich taye2tiya.

Everybody can read between the lines lebanese_a, and no one is fool enough not to see who is the miltia man here. I am not realting the nb of attacks that GMA gets per day to realize the jeapordy of the christain line and who is the mastermind of these attacks.

I never said that federalism is a crime, many countries live according to this system and they are fine with it. But the way that the loyalists want to divide the country and who to put on it as check pieces and in what conditions is tearing this country apart. And yes the LF stated federalism in their statement in the 8th point on their official website one month ago. We are discussing the appearances here, we are analysing what lays beneath. The LF policy now is exactly the opposite of Sheikh Bachir dream : 10452km2.

I am attacking their vision towards this country based on their past, present and decisions. I didn't c a radical change in their attitudes from 30 years ago. They are like parasists living on the foreign orders whether it came once from Syria, now from the West.

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by flamenguita

Everybody can read between the lines lebanese_a, and no one is fool enough not to see who is the miltia man here. I am not realting the nb of attacks that GMA gets per day to realize the jeapordy of the christain line and who is the mastermind of these attacks.

I never said that federalism is a crime, many countries live according to this system and they are fine with it. But the way that the loyalists want to divide the country and who to put on it as check pieces and in what conditions is tearing this country apart. And yes the LF stated federalism in their statement in the 8th point on their official website one month ago. We are discussing the appearances here, we are analysing what lays beneath. The LF policy now is exactly the opposite of Sheikh Bachir dream : 10452km2.

I am attacking their vision towards this country based on their past, present and decisions. I didn't c a radical change in their attitudes from 30 years ago. They are like parasists living on the foreign orders whether it came once from Syria, now from the West.

What do you mean by: "The way they want to divide the country", how do you see this division.
Ba3dena -that's a little dependent on the 1st point bass I can put it now- whoever they "put" on the head of those federation can be changed by people uno federalism mich ya3neh dictature, w asslane changing a system is going to require new elections based on the new system so people will choose those leaders anyways.

Yemkine it's not you who keep attacking the past whenever something comes up (smalla ktar I can't keep count on who's talking what) bass you can't denie that there is a group of FPMers that do nothing but attack geagea's past whenever the word geagea comes up, w ma mine koune 3am ne7keh 3an l past bi koune sujet different totalement.

[mitain]

Originally Posted by Ghnadine

What do you Think of course I hate samir Ga3ga3 ana bakrahak ya samir because:

1. قمت بتهجير حوالي ال700 الف مسيحي من الشوف
2. اكملت على شرق صيدا واوصلت التهجير الىاقليم الخروب
3. وتتسبب بمصرع حوالي ال800 شاب شهيد نصفهم سقط نائماً في منزله او غرقاً في البحر حي
4. ، ومن "بيمون الجنرال" الى محاولات عدة لاغتياله
5. ثم قمت بمجزرة عمشيت حيث بعد قتل الضباط قمت بتقطيعهم الى اجزاء.
6. مجزرتي المتحف ونهر الموت
7. اطلقت حجة انه وصلتك اخبار ومعطيات تفيد بانالمتظاهرين يحملون سلاحاً وقمت بتصفيتهم ثم اتضح ان سلاحهم كان كناية عن شموع واغصان زيتون داعية الى السلم ووقف الحرب
8. كيف مات داني شمعون؟
9. ؟ كيف تبرر دعوتك لرئيس المخابرات السورية غازي كنعان الى غدراس، معقل المسيحيين، بعد ان حرم عليه دخول تلك المنطقة اكثر من 18 عام
10. في ال1991 قمت ببيع عقارات لبنانية لاشخاص غير لبنانية لا بل غير مسيحية،
11. . كيف تدعي السير على خطى البشير؟ هل بتكسير وتمزيق صوره كما حصل في انطلياس؟ ام بالغاء الرزنامة البشيرية من الاذاعات؟ او بطرد زوجته من مكتبها في المجلس الحربي؟ ام بزيارة قتلته
12. سجنك فترة احد عشر عاماً جعلت منك اوساطك الاعلامية سجين المجتمع المسيحي والناطق الرسمي باسمه وباسم الفيديرالية لكنك سرعان ما تخليت عنهما فور خروجك من الزنزانة، لا بل وقفت بجانب سجانيك وفضلتهم على ابناء مجتمعك

Thats why now you know...............................

after ur word ghnadine , i dont have any more words to describe that thing called samir !!

[Ghnadine]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

What do you mean by: "The way they want to divide the country", how do you see this division.

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

Ba3dena -that's a little dependent on the 1st point bass I can put it now- whoever they "put" on the head of those federation can be changed by people uno federalism mich ya3neh dictature, w asslane changing a system is going to require new elections based on the new system so people will choose those leaders anyways.

Yemkine it's not you who keep attacking the past whenever something comes up (smalla ktar I can't keep count on who's talking what) bass you can't denie that there is a group of FPMers that do nothing but attack geagea's past whenever the word geagea comes up, w ma mine koune 3am ne7keh 3an l past bi koune sujet different totalement.

ال800 شاب شهيد نصفهم سقط نائماً في منزله او غرقاً في البحر حي
سجنك فترة احد عشر عاماً جعلت منك اوساطك الاعلامية سجين المجتمع المسيحي والناطق الرسمي باسمه وباسم الفيديرالية لكنك سرعان ما تخليت عنهما فور خروجك من الزنزانة، لا بل وقفت بجانب سجانيك وفضلتهم على ابناء مجتمعك

Let Me ask You something do you know why there FPM's that keep attcaking ga3ga3 haven't you aaked yourself that question well I'll tell you when he killed your brother or Father or son how would you feel clap for him right, how about that!!! ... do you think after years you can forget a brother or father or son look don't come here an say you guys keep attacking ga3ga3 well we will keep attacking him untill he is put back in prison where he belongs.
and u said "The way they want to divide the country"

how about lets start from the begining the past which we keep talk about
1.شعار "امن المجتمع المسيحي فوق كل اعتبار"
so is he defending the Christian by attacking the Presidential Chair not the President because we don't care about him.How would you feel for the first time in History of Lebanon he backed up a Primeminister to exeede the authority of the presidency so tell me after 10 years what will be the situation of Christians in lebanon it will not be the same situation as any arab country???So now who is defending us .....

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best regards and FPM Follower

[elly]

TO SUMMER UP GEAGEA WAS AND STILL BEING AN CRIMINAL A CRUAL CRIMINAL SO HE'S PLACE IS NOT IN BZEMAR IN A CONFORTABLE PALACE BUT IN JAIL

[FriendOfZeus]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

well here you're just questioning the whole purpose of jail!

NOT questioning! Reclarifying that the purpose of a "Prison" is to imprison criminals, pshycopaths and murders. To imprison them and to keep them locked up for good so they wont do any more harm to the people of the society they are living in!