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Originally Posted by xcoder

That's the problem in fact, you talk about freedom and not forcing anyone to do it then you talk about marja3 which is the man and we enter into the sexism game where men decide and you follow.

No the problem is that you've pre-judged islam when you didn't know the first clue about the differences between one sect and another in ideology or understanding of the world.

The marja3 is a man. Partly because such high religious studies are male dominated. That does not mean that a "shaykha" does not exist. So quit with the sexism game you're overdoing it. If a female had what it took to be a marja3 i have no doubt that she will have followers in all sorts of countries but you just don't see women that go that far.

Following your logic i would say that engineers worldwide are sexists because engineering is a male dominated profession.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Islam as a religion does make women second class and please don't tell me you need a proof on this one, when was the last time a woman told her husband "talek" or had the "right" to marry others? Do you inherit equal shares as your brothers?

1-Yes she does have the right to divorce him as long as the reason is valid...they also have to sit down with representatives of both sides and a sheikh to discuss any possible agreement before actually divorcing...the same goes for the man who also needs a valid reason...on top of that if he divorces her she gets whatever money was agreed upon in the pre-nuptual agreement
Meaning that if 500 000$ was agreed upon in case of a divorce she gets every penny of it w law ken m3attar l makhlou2

edit: he has no right to demand money in the pre-nup..he can get nothing out of the divorce...ya3ne ydabbir raso.

2- As far as inheritance goes l mara ma 3enda masroof metl l rejjel. The man is supposed to care for her and it is his responsibility to provide for her. If he inherits anything it is his responsibility to spend it on his family. If the woman however inherits anything she can keep it for herself and is not obligated to spend it on her husband.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Stop being brain washed by some religious slogans that convinced you being the house keeper and belonging to the male model.

teslamle ya mnawwar enta
So because she's religious she's reduced to a housekeeper belonging to the male model?

bel nesbe lal brain washing jeyeek bel 7adees

Originally Posted by xcoder

You are a free person by nature and have the same rights as a man you just gave them away because you were taught this way, i personally don't blame you because you accepted it, but i would if you don't work on changing it.

What you don't know about black_ice is that she...as many others have...was convinced that this was the right path for her.
She only recently wore the veil. Her father is a communist and her mother is not veiled. And as she told you her family don't approve of what she does but this is her conviction.

Read what she has already said and stop talking based on the stereotype you fixed in that enlightened brain of yours.

Edit: ktir wadi7 enna brainwashed.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Back to the veil,
as for the thread >> http://forum.vcoderz.com/ur-hair-t9683/index3.html << the thread is about hair, what are you trying to prove? open a thread about the eyes and you will get similar results, then go wear a "nikab" since your eyes are counted attractive to men, ow wait you need to cover your eyes too!

As black_ice said it is an option. If the person's eyes are that sexually appealing then yes in my opinion they should also be covered up

Originally Posted by xcoder

Why men don't wear the veil? not because woman don't get attracted to them (LOL) but because they are the privileged genre and you are another belonging to them.

They are also expected to wear certain clothes that hide all that can be sexually attractive.
Hay telit marra men2oola. Ma 7a n3ida. Get a clue.

Originally Posted by xcoder

They are the smart who know everything and you are the dummy, that's the only explanation for such subject.

that's your explanation. which is completely distant from the reality of things.
do you really hate religions that blindly?

Originally Posted by xcoder

Islam has a big portion about sex and all given to the males, this is how things are. they made you believe that it's so unappropriated to show your hair but it's just fine your man marry another woman. I don't know how they did it, i can't but admit its success.

1- the male libido is quite different than the woman's. They are much more dependant on sex than women are, men are naturally promiscuous. Women are more prone to get attached to one man. That doesn't mean that men can't live without a single woman. In fact it's much better and preferred to marry one woman.

2- He can only marry another if he is just to his wife. Also in my opinion, you can't be just to your wife if she doesn't accept the fact that you marry another woman.

3- women are increasing in numbers much more than men. Needless to say the number of women forced to lead celibate lives would decrease

Originally Posted by xcoder

Don't feel lonely this is not only the case with Islam, most of religion turned woman into items for men, Islam is heading the list though.

Edit: 1- La2 b3eed l sharr women aren't considered as sexual items for men in commercials nowadays. Are you really that blind?? this is all about reducing women from being items. if anything islam is the religion that glorifies women the most.

2-Thank you for your comfort don't let the door hit you on the way out

Originally Posted by xcoder

I really don't expect you to understand this so fast,

yes black_ice...you're just a little kid...listen to uncle xcoder now he knows best...

Originally Posted by xcoder

just think that you deserve to live a decent life where you decide every detail in it.

YES break free from the shackles of religious practices

i want you to liiiiiiiveeeee

Originally Posted by xcoder

I would have totally accepted your life style and choices if you had the choice. Unfortunately you don't and that's what i am against.

no choice eh eh hay hiyye
ma la2et ghayra hiyye la t2ella hek