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Originally Posted by mr_j
agnosticism: 2 possibilities exist and equaly make sense
1) a big rock existed and it blew up making the universe
2)some supernatural being existed and then created the rock that blew up making the universe
this God does not need to be the christian God or muslim God, it doesn't have to be one God, maybe they have a community or colony in some other dimension
maybe maybe maybe
there is no need to say the world was started by a God and no one started him
we can just skip this to say, the world started alone
the rock was just there and it exploded
maybe the universe is a cycle, it explodes and then because of gravity, eventualy, in billions and billions of years, the particles find each others again and reunite, to explode again
that way we have ourselves a logical eternity that does not need an explanation
the particles simply existed
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I agree with you in everything except the first sentence. Number one cannot be true with agnosticism because it means there is ACTUALLY no God. Se we are left with Number 2 which is what I discussed in my post above.
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Originally Posted by xcoder
The problem is that Atheism is being seen as the proving-that-god-does-not-exist religion which is totally not true.
Atheism cannot be compared to a religion, atheism is not about proving that religion is wrong, it was found to focus on what is real and how to improve that reality and get humanity to a better place based on science ambition innovation...
If religion ever proves that god exists, atheism will be the first to accept it and back it and it won't affect its existence which is not the case with religion if god was proved wrong.
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Can't agree more. Attempts to portray atheism as a religion is just plain wrong.