Who's the real militia ?!

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by friendofzeus

"as for deprivation issue,
what i'm trying to say is that shiaa areas are not the only deprived ones.
just cross the highway at antelias or go into nabaa and sin el fil and nahr,
even burj hammoud,
if you are crossing from beirut to bekaa.....you call this a highway?.
my opinion is that all of lebanon is deprived in this mean."

Man are you serious?? Ur actually comparing burj hammoud to like haret hrek or el burj?? Man when me and my friends want to go out somewhere new and shway mratab we go to sin el fill :P:P:P. Man u just cant compare ur neighbourhoods to like 2ouza3i or hay l seloum or parts of baalbek. I went to deir l ahmar, needless to say the difference was there. In my village, pavements are a new concept, because we only had'em since like 2 years ago. Bah any dahye resident would in a heart beat live in the areas u stated above.

I think its you who has never been to these places.

"as for electricity ... it is a common problem all over lebanon.
after 17 years of taef......our electricity company is still suffering.
succession of impotent ministers and managers.
i'm as christian suffering as you are."

Why is it that in dahye there is almost no electricity feeding while in beirut its 24/7? Why do most areas from beirut to jbeil get power everyday and for the better part of the day. And in most towns and cities in beqqaa EXEPT ZAHLE the electricity goes out for days at a time.

Tab can u care to explain why did the electricity feeding dipped in dahye when the shiaa parlament members resigned??

"talking of hospitals...
how many are there in aley and chouf area?.
even in east beirut.....the hospitals are private hospitals.
it's not the present or past governments who took the initiative."

Same situation in the shiaa areas. Only like 85% of the shiaa population cant afford private hospitals.

"so at least we share the same concerns at the social level.
and when i say we........i mean lebanon north to south and east to west.
regards."

Yep just keep believing that, all areas and cities in lebanon are treated the same way and are given the same amount of importance.

friend,
you have to trust me on this.
social issues are a problem for all.
electricity problems are a problem for all.
and has nothing to do with shiaa or orthodox.
as our consecutive governments were and are still impotent.

as unless they appoint technocrats for ministries like water, electricity, economy, healthcare... it won't work.

for us to be able to run our day to day issues...
and let them keep busy with presidents...prime ministers...and speakers.

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

friend,
you have to trust me on this.
social issues are a problem for all.
electricity problems are a problem for all.
and has nothing to do with shiaa or orthodox.
as our consecutive governments were and are still impotent.

as unless they appoint technocrats for ministries like water, electricity, economy, healthcare... it won't work.

for us to be able to run our day to day issues...
and let them keep busy with presidents...prime ministers...and speakers.

ok come here to " ghazieh " a shiites area , rite next to it " maghdoushi " " meamariyi " " haggi " and the famous " tambourit " go spend a day in ghazieh , and spend a day alone at these villages , ull notice how much electricity they have , and how much do we have , ull notice wat kind of streets nd buildings they have , nd wat ghazieh have , u can guess wat kind of villages they are . . .

[flamenguita]

Originally Posted by systamatics

قرار سرّي لمجلس الوزراء: وقف التسلح والتدريب بالحسنى وإلا... عسكرياً

بيروت - «المحرر العربي»:

اتخذ مجلس الوزراء اللبناني في جلسته الاستثنائية يوم الاثنين الماضي قراراً سرياً يتعلق بموضوع التسلح والتدريب لبعض قوى المعارضة لا سيما التيار الوطني الحر والحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي. ويقضي القرار بوقف تلك العملية بـ «الحسنى»، وإلا فإن السلطات العسكرية والأمنية ستقوم بالإجراءات اللازمة لوقف ذلك، ومهما كانت الاعتبارات. وتجدر الإشارة إلى أن المسؤولين الأمنيين الذين حضروا الجلسة وبينهم مدير المخابرات في الجيش العميد جورج خوري، ورئيس فرع المعلومات في قوى الأمن الداخلي المقدّم وسام الحسن لم يشيروا إلى أي نشاط تقوم به «القوات اللبنانية» في هذا المجال. وكان أحد الوزراء قد تحدث عن القبض على مسؤول إيراني في تنظيم «فتح الإسلام»، وذلك في ضوء ما جرى خلال الجلسة

Ever heard about mafias inside the gvts? This is how they work:

" Be with us , ur spared even if ur a criminal and ur party is military miltia.

be against us, ur screwed even if ur an honest party and we will turn the world against u."

Simply!

[LebArmenian]

an iranian in the ranks of fateh l islem ?
a shi3a in a group that calls for the killing of shi3as ? :-D this is hillarious

ba3den, mou7arrer 3arabe, al seyassah , al mousta2bal are very good papers, they serve well as cleaning papers ya3ne, nthg more.

[flamenguita]

Source: tayyar.org
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تشهد محلة "طريق الجديدة" في بيروت منذ يومين إستنفاراً بين مجموعتين من مؤيدي تيار المستقبل معروفتين بمجموعة "الجمل" ومجموعة "كاراج درويش". فقبل يومين حصل إستنفار وملاسنات ومواجهات رفعت خلالها السواطير والسكاكين والعصي وأيضاً السلاح الحربي دون إستعماله. وحين تدخلت القوى الأمنية للفصل بين المجموعتين تبيّن أنّ جميع أفرادهما يحملون بطاقات إنتماء الى جهاز أمني، لكنّ القوى الأمنية أوقفت فتى في 15 من عمره (ع- د) وأطلقته بعد 24 ساعة بحجّة أنّ ليس من حقّه حمل هذه البطاقة.
واليوم وقبل قليل مرّت سيارة تابعة لإحدى المجموعتين إستفزّ بها أفراداً من المجموعة الأخرى في حيّّ يعرف زاروب "buchet" في طريق الجديدة، ويسود توتر في الحي والمنطقة

[TangerineDream]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

we should have learnt this the hard way by now.
the only thing all the lebanese share are the bitter memories of war.
all of us suffered casualties.
all of us suffered losses.

did we learn?.
i would say no.

when are we going to learn?.
hopefuly....next time.

thanks.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Lots of us learned, learned never to trust or turn our backs to some of our "fellow Christians"... Because surely we will find a knife planted there quickly...

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by flamenguita

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Ever heard about mafias inside the gvts? This is how they work:

" Be with us , ur spared even if ur a criminal and ur party is military miltia.

be against us, ur screwed even if ur an honest party and we will turn the world against u."

Simply!

heard of them since 1990 at least.

Geagea trial.
Gma exile.
Lfers abuse, arrest, prosecution and exile.
Fpmers arrest and prosecution.

Hobeika as minister and patriotic.
Habib chartouni release.
MP gabriel el morr deprived from his seat in parliament.

hariri forced to extend for lahoud.
extension for lahoud.

and a long list............
that makes us all alike....
that is if ........you like.

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by TangerineDream

Sorry, but you are wrong. Lots of us learned, learned never to trust or turn our backs to some of our "fellow Christians"... Because surely we will find a knife planted there quickly...

what do you mean by some of your fellow christians.
the ones that don't turn the left cheak.........when slapped on the right one?.

i hope no more knives will be necessary.
but .......i'm sure if a knife to be planted...
it will be a reaction.........as it was before ........
and if you are reacting.....means you are facing......
so rest assured.......it will be face to face....

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by systamatics

ok come here to " ghazieh " a shiites area , rite next to it " maghdoushi " " meamariyi " " haggi " and the famous " tambourit " go spend a day in ghazieh , and spend a day alone at these villages , ull notice how much electricity they have , and how much do we have , ull notice wat kind of streets nd buildings they have , nd wat ghazieh have , u can guess wat kind of villages they are . . .

thank you for the invitation systamatics.

but sorry i can not argue with this.
it will take a thread by itself.

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

thank you for the invitation systamatics.

but sorry i can not argue with this.
it will take a thread by itself.

yeh this is unargueable , u should live the expeirience to know . . . especially in the nite , u come there no elec. u look at maghdoushi , its all lighty all the nite , the elec. never goes there . . .