Abortion

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by systamatics

not only an atheist , an abortion supporter 2 , y should any one have the rite to kill a human?! only in the 1st 2 months its allowed , cz theres no soul in the baby , after tht its wrong!

Question: Since you are the soul expert, Does the cow you eat have a soul? What about chicken? Define a soul please,because of all definitions it sounds more ambiguous than anything else.

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by athegan

Question: Since you are the soul expert, Does the cow you eat have a soul? What about chicken? Define a soul please,because of all definitions it sounds more ambiguous than anything else.

yes they do have a soul , every creature does
best regards
soul expert

[Gilgamesh]

so u r ending souls with every hamburger,i wonder what the difference is

[SysTaMatIcS]

so ur tryin to compare between an animal's soul with a baby's soul?!

[Gilgamesh]

I am asking you. Are there different ranks of souls? because biologically speaking an abortion can't be worse than frying a fertilized chicken egg for breakfast. But soul wise, I am not sure, I am no expert in that field

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by athegan

With it...Consider these cases:
1-Financial reasons: Kids in Africa who are brought to poverty and eventually die of hunger...Abortion in the first couple of months of pregnancy is a better fate.
2-Social Reasons: Teenage women who are left behind by whoever impregnated them....Impregnation through rape is another case.
3-Health reasons: Any danger to the life of the woman no matter how slight it is makes abortion a moral must...For men out here,if you think a fetus is more important than your wife try getting a fetus to wash ur dirty underwear

Reasons are endless, abortion should be a matter only the woman gets to decide,each case aside. Some women would prefer to risk their lives to keep the baby, others just don't feel like taking the responsibility of a newborn and want to abort;whatever her reasons are she is the final person to decide and no law should interfere.

There are no social reasons that can lead to kill a baby regardless what they are.
The result of a mistake in such things is not a mistake but a victim, you cannot fix a mistake by another one.
As for the other reasons such as Africa, you can never know that the baby will die of hunger or let's say 50% chance, 50% is still better than 0% isn't it?
Same thing applies to the "by mistake" ones, babies must not be a solution of parents mistakes either noneducational or accidental ones.

[Gilgamesh]

A baby is a baby when it is born,before that it is a fetus.

"The question is, Is a fetus a baby? Well if a fetus is a baby how come the census doesn't count them? If a fetus is a human being how come when there is a miscarriage they don't have a funeral? If a fetus is a baby how come people say,' We have two children and one on the way' instead of saying ' We have three children'?"---George Carlin

As soon as a fetus can live outside his mom's body with the aid of machines (that is about 4 months),whoever wants to come and say to the mom that she is not allowed to abort should take the baby,put it on artificial supply and then adopt it. If no one is willing to do that she has the right to do whatever she wants with it.

I am not defending abortion as a concept, I wouldn't advise a woman to abort. What I am defending is that she is the only one who should take the decision to abort or keep the baby. The father, government, church or anyone else should have no authority over her decision. Their role starts and ends with advising her with the option they see as more appropriate.

[Medusa]

IF every anormal baby should be killed ya3ne all humain begin will born normally and it's totally wrong !! cz heyde "5EL2ET RABBNAAAA " God just want this and we have to accept and to know how to react with it ! and I'm TOTALLYY AGAINST abortion la abel 3 months wala abel chi cz we kill a baby of 1 month like we kill a humain of 50 years
it's so terrible to compare an egg to a baby it's so weird it's a humainn mannn !!! not a chicken that we eat