Hizbullah...After the Theacracy!!!

[Gilgamesh]

(Hypothetical Question) Assuming Hizbullah will outlive it, what do u think will be the fate of Hizbullah if Iran's theocratic dictatorship falls?Do you think they will be more flexible and understand that not all Lebanese are suicidal Shiites who want to free Palestine? Or do you think they will probably be more extreme? If Hizbullah outlives Najad and a possible system change in Iran, how do u think Israel and Opposing Lebanese parties would deal with it? How would the U.S. deal with it? What will Hizbullah do?

Peace

[Buthus]

hello everybody am a new member in the Vcoderz community i found it interesting to reply to this topic as the first reply i do.
i feel that it is so naive to summarize Hizbullah as Shiite suicide bombers,they are really much more than that,concerning what will happen if the irani regeem falls ofcourse hizbollah will be affected but we dont need to forget hizballuh are not some mercenaries they are whole big community they are from the people who lost their homes in the past war it wasnt iran fighting in the field it was those pple ,what will the us and israel do ?? maybe they might be dumb enough to think that it's over and do a silly action which they will pay for it hard

thank you for ur post

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Buthus

hello everybody am a new member in the Vcoderz community i found it interesting to reply to this topic as the first reply i do.
i feel that it is so naive to summarize Hizbullah as Shiite suicide bombers,they are really much more than that,concerning what will happen if the irani regeem falls ofcourse hizbollah will be affected but we dont need to forget hizballuh are not some mercenaries they are whole big community they are from the people who lost their homes in the past war it wasnt iran fighting in the field it was those pple ,what will the us and israel do ?? maybe they might be dumb enough to think that it's over and do a silly action which they will pay for it hard

thank you for ur post

Well, We all know they are a lot more than what I said, but this part of their ideology is where the whole controversy and dialog surrounding them should be placed...If they are to outlive Iran in case that regime falls, How would that be?Can they (and how) take all the pressure from within Lebanon and the more surmounting pressure from the US, EU, Israel and most Arab Countries? If they are to exist after Iran, in what form can they do that?

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by athegan

(Hypothetical Question) Assuming Hizbullah will outlive it, what do u think will be the fate of Hizbullah if Iran's theocratic dictatorship falls?Do you think they will be more flexible and understand that not all Lebanese are suicidal Shiites who want to free Palestine? Or do you think they will probably be more extreme? If Hizbullah outlives Najad and a possible system change in Iran, how do u think Israel and Opposing Lebanese parties would deal with it? How would the U.S. deal with it? What will Hizbullah do?

Peace

Not long time ago hizbullah said it clear if anything happened between Syria & Israel it won't launch any strike against israel and i think that applies on Iran as well.
Taking things to this extreme looks weird and so brainwashed by the media showing hizbullah applying everything iran or syria wants in Lebanon forgetting that they're the people of the south who were slaughtered for ages by Israel.
Besides let the U.S get out of the deep hole it went into by entering iraq. i m sure they will think 100 times more before making any strike on iran.

[Buthus]

Originally Posted by athegan

Well, We all know they are a lot more than what I said, but this part of their ideology is where the whole controversy and dialog surrounding them should be placed...If they are to outlive Iran in case that regime falls, How would that be?Can they (and how) take all the pressure from within Lebanon and the more surmounting pressure from the US, EU, Israel and most Arab Countries? If they are to exist after Iran, in what form can they do that?

hizbullah stands on a huge base of supporters which is the main source of power in Lebanon,pressure from the U.S ? nothing worse than the last war could happen,the EU are right now worried about their soldiers in the south and Arab countries can do nothing maybe the US can do something but the Arabs will just follow like always i believe that hizbullah have overcame the period where they are tied financially to one source , they have their own businesses and much more sources of finance , they will still be an active political party and they have enough armor to serve the purpose they are for and in case of some missing stuff u can forget this is Lebanon for the suitable amount of money u get whatever u want

[wewe]

Originally Posted by Buthus

hello everybody am a new member in the Vcoderz community i found it interesting to reply to this topic as the first reply i do.
i feel that it is so naive to summarize Hizbullah as Shiite suicide bombers,they are really much more than that,concerning what will happen if the irani regeem falls ofcourse hizbollah will be affected but we dont need to forget hizballuh are not some mercenaries they are whole big community they are from the people who lost their homes in the past war it wasnt iran fighting in the field it was those pple ,what will the us and israel do ?? maybe they might be dumb enough to think that it's over and do a silly action which they will pay for it hard

thank you for ur post

look i am an FPMer , my father fought( i do'nt know if this is the past tense of fight ) with gma till the end , but that does'nt mean that we're blind and do'nt have our opinion , onestly , considerinh hizbollah's case , i think that we should'nt just listen to politicians , hizbollah is also a way of life (wich i am against) , it's a way of worshiping nasrallla(or it's a way of religion fhama metel ma baddak ) (wich i am against also) , it's a resistance (wich does'nt make a problem to me ) , it's not very simple , i supported hiizbollah in the war , we worked hard with fpm also , but the biggest thing that bothers me about hizib alla is his relations with iran (wich we can't separate from religion stuff) , it's too complicated to me , they're not iranian troops in lebanon , but if iran vanish ( or whatever happen to iran) , hizbollah will be affected more than u think .
i wo'nt make my reply longer than that

[Kain]

Originally Posted by wewe

hizbollah is also a way of life (wich i am against) , it's a way of worshiping nasrallla

NA3AM??? CARE TO EXPLAIN THAT ??

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Kain

NA3AM??? CARE TO EXPLAIN THAT ??

He means the religion side which is well mixed with politics, i do agree with him on that point and that doesn't apply only on Hizbullah but lot of other parties like LF for example. As you know FPM calls for secularism and such parties are categorized as sectarian but that doesn't prevent creating bridges between Lebanese to find solutions to all their issues.

[wewe]

Originally Posted by xcoder

He means the religion side which is well mixed with politics, i do agree with him on that point and that doesn't apply only on Hizbullah but lot of other parties like LF for example. As you know FPM calls for secularism and such parties are categorized as sectarian but that doesn't prevent creating bridges between Lebanese to find solutions to all their issues.

thank you
i agree , but honestly that's a big issue for me , as christian or as an FPMer
and it's keeping me away from hizib alla , i had many friends shi3a , they loved me , when i started politics argument , they turned me to an ennemy
can't explain that

[General]

Originally Posted by wewe

thank you
i agree , but honestly that's a big issue for me , as christian or as an FPMer
and it's keeping me away from hizib alla , i had many friends shi3a , they loved me , when i started politics argument , they turned me to an ennemy
can't explain that

I can explain, you're too sectarian to talk politics with an HA member