gen. Sleiman: A genuin syrian-licker, or only playing smart on Bachar?

[My BlyBlue Day]

العماد سليمان يتصل بالأسد وبالقيادة العسكرية السورية: تأكيد الثقة المتبادلة
26 كانون الثاني 2008




أجرى قائد الجيش العماد ميشال سليمان، أمس، اتصالات هاتفية بالرئيس السوري الدكتور بشار الاسد وبالقيادة العسكرية السورية. وقالت مصادر اطلعت على أجواء الاتصالات، لـ«السفير» ان المحادثة بين سليمان والأسد انما أكدت الثقة المتبادلة بين الجانبين والتي لم تهتز بالرغم من محاولة بعض الجهات الخارجية دق إسفين بينهما.
ووصفت المصادر أجواء الاتصال بين الأسد وسليمان بأنها كانت جيدة جدا وتركت ارتياحا لدى الجانبين خاصة أنهما على وعي كامل لمحاولات بعض الجهات الخارجية تخريب العلاقة.
وأشارت المصادر الى أن العماد سليمان باتصاله بالأسد واستمرار التنسيق الثابت والدائم بين الجيشين اللبناني والسوري والذي لم ينقطع في يوم من الأيام، انما يؤكد قناعته الراسخة بالعلاقات بين البلدين. وأكدت المصادر أن الجانب السوري لم يدخل مع العماد سليمان في تفاصيل الحلول المقترحة للأزمة اللبنانية لا سيما منها المبادرة العربية وأنه يترك للبنانيين تفاصيل تنفيذ الحلول على قاعدة لا غالب ولا مغلوب.

Inno we understand that the guy had no problems in adapting his neck to the syrian army boots when they were here.. Calling Bachar yesterday and reiterating his brotherly wejbeto can be interpreted in two ways:

Either, Slimmy Slei is another Lahoud reincarnation and the man is a genuin bustard..

Or Sleiman is a slimmy son of a slime whose main intention is only to regain Bachars strong support for his candidacy (feeling that syrian doubts have increased lately, after sensing his all too "flexible" and american-loyalist friendly pragmatism). In that case one suspects that such a weird and misplaced phone call must have been blessed and approved by the americans, because with less than the americans blessing many loyalists would raise eyebrows and start to scratch their butts (or heads, no difference) suspiciously. This later is my guess.

[Jean]

العماد سليمان كان و لا يزال من أصدقاء سوريا و بشار الأسد و هو لم يخف ذلك.

في هذه المرحلة ، سليمان يطلب من القيادة السورية الضعط على حزب الله لتشهيل وصوله الى بعبدا ، فما يهمه الآن هو الكرسي و لا شيئ آخر

و الغريب هو قبول 14 شباط بترشيحه ، علماً انهن يدعون معاداة النظام السوري ، بينما سليمان هو مرشح سوريا للرئاسة

[El-Meghwar]

General Sleymen is a patriotic man. calling the syrian president doesn't mean he's a syrian boot licker neither playing it smart with bashar because it's not bashar who own the decision of electing the Lebanese president.

[xcoder]

Where's 14feb patriots? weird they didn't call him traitor

[My BlyBlue Day]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

General Sleymen is a patriotic man. calling the syrian president doesn't mean he's a syrian boot licker neither playing it smart with bashar because it's not bashar who own the decision of electing the Lebanese president.

A patriotic man is a man who resembles the one you have in your avatar. A man who finds himself a suitable role to coexist with an occupation army can not be considered to be particulary patriotic, rather a quisling opportunist. A man who lacks popular political support from his community and who accepts to be pushed forward as a so called consensus candidate by foreign powers in their attempts to y2awtbo la Michel Aoun, is not particulary patriotic, rather a merchandise in the hands of different market speculators.

Calling his former Boss and reassuring him of his ' 3laqat moumayyaza" allegiance is only meant as a continuation of the famous "lick my syrian ass a little and you may get my blessing" for your coming project, even if not the whole decision is in Bachars hand, but is perceived as such in reguard to Bachars influence over Hizbullah; and perception, however false, counts as much as knowing for sure.

[My BlyBlue Day]

Originally Posted by xcoder

Where's 14feb patriots? weird they didn't call him traitor

They didn't because they have zero say in Sleimans candidacy. It was imposed on them, just like everything else, by their american overlords. 14feb patriots are a bunch of saramé ajallak, they only fit others feet and have no say on where they are being walked. If the americans tell those people that " We want you to elect Roustom Ghazalé as your next president" the 14febs will construct themselves an excuse through which they will invent a suitable motivation for them to go and elect their number one butcher.

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by My BlyBlue Day

A patriotic man is a man who resembles the one you have in your avatar. A man who finds himself a suitable role to coexist with an occupation army can not be considered to be particulary patriotic, rather a quisling opportunist. A man who lacks popular political support from his community and who accepts to be pushed forward as a so called consensus candidate by foreign powers in their attempts to y2awtbo la Michel Aoun, is not particulary patriotic, rather a merchandise in the hands of different market speculators.

Calling his former Boss and reassuring him of his ' 3laqat moumayyaza" allegiance is only meant as a continuation of the famous "lick my syrian ass a little and you may get my blessing" for your coming project, even if not the whole decision is in Bachars hand, but is perceived as such in reguard to Bachars influence over Hizbullah; and perception, however false, counts as much as knowing for sure.

Eno General Sleiman shouldn't have any sort of relation with Syria, and shouldn't have any connection with Bashar in order to be Patriotic ?
I'm not defending him neither saying he is not patriotic ... but to say he is opportunistic and not patriotic just because he called Bashar is just a blind accusation ...
Opposition wants best relation with Syria, Loyalists claim they want best relation with Syria and we see them in every occasion, they politically acccuse Syria to be behind the chaos in Lebanon ...
so how can we reach such relation with Syria if calling or visiting Syria will be considered as "licking boots " from one side and accusing Syria with every bombing from the other side ?

Thank You ...

[My BlyBlue Day]

Originally Posted by abousoun

Eno General Sleiman shouldn't have any sort of relation with Syria, and shouldn't have any connection with Bashar in order to be Patriotic ?
I'm not defending him neither saying he is not patriotic ... but to say he is opportunistic and not patriotic just because he called Bashar is just a blind accusation ...
Opposition wants best relation with Syria, Loyalists claim they want best relation with Syria and we see them in every occasion, they politically acccuse Syria to be behind the chaos in Lebanon ...
so how can we reach such relation with Syria if calling or visiting Syria will be considered as "licking boots " from one side and accusing Syria with every bombing from the other side ?

Thank You ...

I was telling Meghwar that an army general who served under syrian boots cannot be considered to be particularly patriotic. An army general who commemorates Roustom Ghazales services (ya 3eine malla services) in Lebanon at Riyaq airport shortly before the syrians left in 2005, is hardly to be considered as patriot.

If the same general calls one day his former syrian boss and repeats the famous cursed phrase of oukhouwwa and 3alaqat moumayyaza through which we lebanese were repeatedly fu**d up many times, and as it just happens by a chance when that same general is launched as a consensus president instead of Michel Aoun, then yes, this general can not be other than his same syrian ass licker, especially if we know that the issue of the presidency is not settled yet, an issue which will influence the course of this countrys future. If we some day will get to the point where we have a president of our choice and a country relaxed enough to resume normal political life then i see no problem in calling not only the syrians but also the israelis for chit chatings between our army generals and their presidents.

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by My BlyBlue Day

I was telling Meghwar that an army general who served under syrian boots cannot be considered to be particularly patriotic. An army general who commemorates Roustom Ghazales services (ya 3eine malla services) in Lebanon at Riyaq airport shortly before the syrians left in 2005, is hardly to be considered as patriot.

If the same general calls one day his former syrian boss and repeats the famous cursed phrase of oukhouwwa and 3alaqat moumayyaza through which we lebanese were repeatedly fu**d up many times, and as it just happens by a chance when that same general is launched as a consensus president instead of Michel Aoun, then yes, this general can not be other than his same syrian ass licker, especially if we know that the issue of the presidency is not settled yet, an issue which will influence the course of this countrys future. If we some day will get to the point where we have a president of our choice and a country relaxed enough to resume normal political life then i see no problem in calling not only the syrians but also the israelis for chit chatings between our army generals and their presidents.

In your equation the only man who fit to be president for Lebanon is GMA, I support him and respect him and wish he becomes president ... but due to the internal conflicts this is becoming out of question (at least till now) ... in the meanwhile should we attack the General of Lebanese Army whose fault was a general during the syrian occupation ? General Sleiman was able to keep the army together in many difficult situations and he succeeded in many tests ...
Let's hope he continues that way and don't change ...

Thank You ...

[My BlyBlue Day]

Originally Posted by abousoun

In your equation the only man who fit to be president for Lebanon is GMA, I support him and respect him and wish he becomes president ... but due to the internal conflicts this is becoming out of question (at least till now) ... in the meanwhile should we attack the General of Lebanese Army whose fault was a general during the syrian occupation ? General Sleiman was able to keep the army together in many difficult situations and he succeeded in many tests ...
Let's hope he continues that way and don't change ...

Thank You ...

I do understand your point but i don't agree. This is exactly the kind of reasoning which has been taking us from bad to worse. In order to abide by imposed conditions, and i do aknowledge they are mostly self-made by us lebanese, we settle for bad half-solutions. Tell me, what if it was not Sleiman but a direct open saudi or syrian puppet who is the proposed consenus president? What differentiates Sleiman from Nassib Lahoud? Or Antoine Andraous?. Unlike those later, the only covering stamp behind which Sleiman is able to hide his clientelism and opportunism is the army. But you have to remember that Lahoud also acted under the same cover when he was appointed president and we do know what that resulted in.

The main point of my cristism of Sleiman is to only remind ourselves that a rotten apple is rotten irrespective of the package you wrap it in and that in case he shall get elected president, according to the same consensus bull we have been swallowing everytime some undecent solution is to be imposed on us, his contract should be at least limited until new elections are held.