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Old 10-07-2008   #21
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Default Re: Exclusive: Facebook Source Code Leaked!

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This user's gifts are private.


this is wat am getting
yeah they private but when u copy/paste the code :

http://apps.facebook.com/freegifts/?from=ID

and replace ID with the real id number ull get the gift sent by that user to others


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That's 1 page, no body can make sure this one is correct.
Btw, you can find on torrent facebook clone scripts.
Bottom line, facebook architecture is GENIUS and another proof of the power of PHP and Linux
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That's 1 page, no body can make sure this one is correct.
Btw, you can find on torrent facebook clone scripts.
Bottom line, facebook architecture is GENIUS and another proof of the power of PHP and Linux
But wait man, Facebook isn't open source!
After the code was leaked, many people thought first that Facebook is going to be turned to open source... but in fact that was wrong!
Some say that if they make it open source it would be much better! Is that right?!
A program can be open source, but the thing of making a website open source is a little bit controversial! (security issues)
Take the captcha systems as example!
So the question is: Should facebook be open source?

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But wait man, Facebook isn't open source!
After the code was leaked, many people thought first that Facebook is going to be turned to open source... but in fact that was wrong!
Some say that if they make it open source it would be much better! Is that right?!
A program can be open source, but the thing of making a website open source is a little bit controversial! (security issues)
Take the captcha systems as example!
So the question is: Should facebook be open source?

You cannot see it that way, why would facebook want to leak its script? What's the purpose of open source?
It's where you have many people who are using a specific system and want to make it better so everyone would work on upgrading part of it as well as studying it.
Look at vbulletin for example, you can download it illegally and get the source code, yet it's the most secured forum script ever made, which makes facebook script even if leaked not a real danger for a system of such size.
Giving away facebook source code could help people studying how the system was made for knowledge purposes but not for usage, facebook idea is not to make an application to be installed and used but to install on and use on the main source which is facebook.com.
Besides, you should consider that facebook is a framework system which makes people able to upgrade it without needing to get the "core codes". So it got 2 birds with 1 stone and everyone is happy.
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Default Re: Exclusive: Facebook Source Code Leaked!

First of all, I don't know if Facebook leaked the source code on purpose! I didn't say that...
I don't know what's the real story about this!
You said that it's another proof of the power of Linux, but Linux is open source while Facebook isn't, that's the point!
I didn't stated my opinion about weather Facebook should be open source or not, I posed a controversial question...
Take the Captcha systems algorithms, most of them are secret and not open source!
About Vbulletin, who said that it is secure at a certain degree?!
Hackers found many XSS and other bugs in Facebook without having the source code, so what if they have it?!

The point is that if I'm a hacker and I want to hack Facebook, if I don't have the source code I would go blindly searching for exploits! But if I have the source code then my target is so clear in front of me, even if the exploiting would become harder!


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Look at vbulletin for example, you can download it illegally and get the source code, yet it's the most secured forum script ever made, which makes facebook script even if leaked not a real danger for a system of such size.

How did you linked the green part and the red one?!
Vbulletin is different than Facebook, it is limited in size and features and options... (ex: In school, If you write one sentence the proportionality of committing writing mistakes is less than if you write a whole text! )


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Besides, you should consider that facebook is a framework system which makes people able to upgrade it without needing to get the "core codes". So it got 2 birds with 1 stone and everyone is happy.

This is for you if you're an application developer!
This framework is in the application layer, so only installed applications are concerned and this is not what are we talking about making facebook open source in order to upgrade the SYSTEM!
So you need the core codes to upgrade the system!
The new facebook is an upgrade for the core codes and not the facebool API library!
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Default Re: Exclusive: Facebook Source Code Leaked!

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First of all, I don't know if Facebook leaked the source code on purpose! I didn't say that...
We don't even know if the source code were true to assume it was leaked in the first place.
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I don't know what's the real story about this!
You said that it's another proof of the power of Linux, but Linux is open source while Facebook isn't, that's the point!
I did not mention anything about open source. besides you cannot compare Facebook to Linux, they're 2 different subjects, one is a web application and the second is the base of that system.
The point i was raising is PHP and the power of PHP which is Apache/Linux based.
Some people say PHP is limited and weak trying to score a point for asp/asp.net which are windows based.
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I didn't stated my opinion about weather Facebook should be open source or not, I posed a controversial question...
Take the Captcha systems algorithms, most of them are secret and not open source!
About Vbulletin, who said that it is secure at a certain degree?!
Hackers found many XSS and other bugs in Facebook without having the source code, so what if they have it?!
Nothing is non hackable, that's why security systems are upgraded and made more powerful, but the point is that getting the source code of any system doesn't make it hackable as "i got the key in".
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The point is that if I'm a hacker and I want to hack Facebook, if I don't have the source code I would go blindly searching for exploits! But if I have the source code then my target is so clear in front of me, even if the exploiting would become harder!

How did you linked the green part and the red one?!
Vbulletin is different than Facebook, it is limited in size and features and options... (ex: In school, If you write one sentence the proportionality of committing writing mistakes is less than if you write a whole text! )

How you didn't find the common point between both.
Both are built using the same language, both are frameworks, they're same style and they're both BIG.
As for the sentence/text theory, you got a student writing a sentence and group of students writing a text. one of the projects is worth millions and the other is worth billions. Again it's not a valid reason because the resources aren't the same.
It could be easier for hackers as you said but in general having a source code doesn't mean it turns hackable as you tried to show in your first post.
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This is for you if you're an application developer!
This framework is in the application layer, so only installed applications are concerned and this is not what are we talking about making facebook open source in order to upgrade the SYSTEM!
So you need the core codes to upgrade the system!
The new facebook is an upgrade for the core codes and not the facebool API library
loool, why would you need to upgrade facebook?
Maybe you should consider upgrading google or youtube or maybe vcoderz :P
Facebook has commercial backgrounds my friend it worth billions, as you said "Facebook is not an open source" and it cannot be otherwise. How would you want to upgrade that system?
By having your own facebook modified like "facelook" ? :P
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Default Re: Exclusive: Facebook Source Code Leaked!

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We don't even know if the source code were true to assume it was leaked in the first place.
If you're talking about reliability, then go search google!

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I did not mention anything about open source. besides you cannot compare Facebook to Linux, they're 2 different subjects, one is a web application and the second is the base of that system.
The point i was raising is PHP and the power of PHP which is Apache/Linux based.
Some people say PHP is limited and weak trying to score a point for asp/asp.net which are windows based.
Well your opinion in the first post wasn't clear enough, and I didn't not compare Facebook to Linux (Look at my first reply to you).
I agree on what you said about PHP...

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Nothing is non hackable, that's why security systems are upgraded and made more powerful, but the point is that getting the source code of any system doesn't make it hackable as "i got the key in".
Who said that getting the source means getting the key in!
Look at what I wrote in red and you get my answer!

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How you didn't find the common point between both.
Both are built using the same language, both are frameworks, they're same style and they're both BIG.
As for the sentence/text theory, you got a student writing a sentence and group of students writing a text. one of the projects is worth millions and the other is worth billions. Again it's not a valid reason because the resources aren't the same.
It could be easier for hackers as you said but in general having a source code doesn't mean it turns hackable as you tried to show in your first post.
Facebook and Vbulletin do not constitute a homogeneous system!
Vbulletin is a forum, but Facebook is something bigger! (by bigger i mean what it contains and what's inside...)
Also about the code size, they're not equal; Facebook is much bigger! (Do you have a doubt about this?!
About the text theory, if you want to compare, you got a student writing a sentence and a group writing a BOOK!

And I didn't said that having a source code means that the site becomes hackable (read it again!). I wrote:
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And source leakage in some cases can help exploiting a site, but fortunately here, only the homepage source was leaked!
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loool, why would you need to upgrade facebook?
Maybe you should consider upgrading google or youtube or maybe vcoderz :P
Facebook has commercial backgrounds my friend it worth billions, as you said "Facebook is not an open source" and it cannot be otherwise. How would you want to upgrade that system?
By having your own facebook modified like "facelook" ? :P
I need to upgrade in order not to invade my privacy and not to hack my account!
And yeah, why not upgrading the sites you mentioned... Is this ironic or what? If it is, then do you think that google is perfect and ideal?
And yeah it has commercial backgrounds and worth billions, but who said that I adopt the "open source" opinion completely, I said before that this issue is controversial...
By the way, even if Facebook has commercial background it can be open source and the owners still can benefit from it!
And upgrading the system does not mean modifying it to facelook lol
Can you tell me why they did upgrade it to the "new facebook"?
If there is no need, then why they did this?


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My friend you're still not getting the point.
Facebook cannot be open source.
When you get an open source system you will have the right to modify/share/republish and it allows people to have their own copies installed on their own systems.
That's why you don't find unique websites with open source ability.
It just doesn't suit well with facebook, otherwise they would have done it long time ago.
The idea of facebook is creating a base script that allows people to add unlimited API(s) most of the stuff we use on facebook are API(s), and that's what Facebook is aiming and they succeeded big time.
Mentioning the new.facebook.com shows that you didn't understand the idea. Of course they will upgrade facebook but "they" refers to facebook engineers and not the public to upgrade the core so the public can enlarge the Libirary and benefit of it
As for vbulletin and Facebook, comparing them to sentence and book is ultra exaggerating, Facebook script is not as huge as you're trying to show, it's certainly bigger than Vbulletin but not the difference you're trying to show.
What does the main Facebook script has? wall, image gallery, groups, profile, user utilities(inbox...)... that's it!
Most of the other stuff we know like super wall and these stuff are made by the public, and that's why you see facebook as huge.
Facebook is another advanced Hi5 and succeeded to make it grow BIG TIME by knowing how to use the public power.
once again, Facebook Idea and Script are GENIUS, Vbulletin as well but let's just give everything its own size
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