To The FPMers

[Sheriff Ice]

this is the big question WHERE IS THE PEOPLE WHERE IS THE FPMers ?

all i see this days is critics , sarcasm , and less work .

what happened to this special spirit the spirit that drove them for almost 2 decades ? when you were beaten you never backed down , when you had no rights whatsoever and you were treated like S** you never stoped , you never questioned never doubted you kept going against ALL ODDS . what happened to you now ?
when you had nothing you fought like hell to get what you want today you have more then before you achieved a lot and got way ahead of others and how are you acting ?
the thing you call "movement" was created by this spirit , unfortunatly i do not see it today it vanished, you , all of you are no longer the same YOU changed YOU lost the spirit, the will and the motives . obviously the old generation have faith more then you young have and dont blame it on your leader your leader knows the past and is able to read and analyse the coming days you dont even read you dont analyse you like to speculate and throw your speculation as if they were reality you prefer to attack and blame others for what you failled to do by yourself .

riz2alla when FPMers did not wait for leadership to give them a push or a signal , when all our actions had for first base our beliefs in a cause and were instigated by personal initiatives . we use to attack with one weapon our faith in what we believe is right . where are you FPMers ?
you never waited for someone to organise your moves , your ideas or your actions you use to give the best you had no one was able to break your will .

today you blame your leadership ? yes GMA should be back to Paris eat saumon and drink champagne maybe then you will have again a motive . maybe the occupation was your target but you failed to see that today your existence as free citizens is your target a citizen who should have rights in a country where citizens rights are nothing but a joke a country drawning in corruption and this is what you should be fighting along with your leadership , you failed to see that you still have a battle to make to achieve the after occupation = restore a country , rebuild its institutions , demolish corruption , to do so you have a whole program infront of you and your should know it by heart and work to implement it spread it and teach it in his/her serrounding instead you are attacking yourself what a shame . your critics are not even constructive .

i dont say some people in the leadership are working enough and working in the right place and on the right target we all know there is a lack somewhere specialy when it comes to working more with the young base but should this stop you from doing what you do best ? should this stop you from being motivated and driven by your will to achieve the change ?
GMA is not a God and do not have many hands or many heads you should be his eyes his hands his tongue and his driving force for him you are and he consider you his power but day after day with your doubts your endless whining and nagging you prove that he is nothing more then an old man trying to do a miracles with people who insist on selfdistruction . what you are giving GMA or FPM ? what are you doing ? he is taking the big part of responsability what are you doing beside questioning , doubting and naging ? he is fighting for you each step is carefully studied if you failed to see or to understand it it is not his problem he is always more then clear in all his speaches wlak he even bi charebkon yehon bel mal3a2a and yet vous cherchez la petite puce , you want to be informed about details while you are not even working on the basics .

you always see the negative parts and failed to see the positive hudge things we achieved, knowing all the pressure and evil we had to face . you failled to see the positive aproach even if it was done slowly but carefully infront of your eyes and you saw the good sides an outcomes, but you prefer to nag . few days ago i was having lunch with friends one of them is a Kataeb (very very very kataeb ) you know what she told me ? she said "chapeau bas for Gebran Bassil he is doing a great job i think he is one of the best ministers we had in a long time Mario Aoun is good too realy mwafa2in ya tayyar bel ministers tab3oulkon bravo . sahih ya haram they have a difficult job with all this mess but walla bravo ." and from my part i said "walla wejbeti ana hanikon bi hal family iranian roots " i will spare you the hilarious reply she gave me !!!!!!

when was the last time any of you mentioned the good work done by any one in tayyar ? all i see is attacks w maskhara GROW UP . responsables of media should to their job better , students as well , normal citizen same , each one of us has a responsability ....are we doing what we should do ?
and now you are doubting GMA motives ya 3ayni 3alaykon . LFers sound like angels compared to you at least they never question the evil beside their master's mind you doubt GMA who is fighting to restore the rights for so long hijaked by a bunch of criminals ?.

we always had to face the power of dirty electoral money nothing new , the dirty propaganda nothing new , the filthy political corruption nothing new , nothing changed on this level did this stoped us before ? we never had money we never had any support did it break our will ? we were more organised then now WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU ? .... YOU changed you are no longer creative . sorto may3in waiting for leadership.. BE CREATIVE take initiatives send them to Rabiyeh as u used to do when GMA was in paris walaw hala2 Rabiyeh sarit unreachable while Paris was reachable ? when there is a will there is always a way but seems noone has the will ...dont find exuses for your failiure you want organisation ? DO IT , GMA can not do every thing and can not work on all levels you should be the base working to make this base grow let GMA work on more important issues .
our principles did not change our goals are the same but you do not read you have no patience badkon el echya kouni fa kanat you dont see that things are far more complicated then what you see and we are working like walking on a living volcano ... ignorance is your worst ennemy and you became your own ennemy .

your attitude is what is driving you to failiure stop acting like spoiled kids one thing is sure we are not spoiled kids we built what we have today with our own hard work dont distroy it with your stupidity . DONT WAIT , ACT . we have committee students leaders waynon chou am ya3mlo ? we have committees on all levels are they doing their jobs ???????

i saw with my own eyes how there is out there honest courageous FPMers with the same will and same devotion i still have hope i believe we can do it . GMA need you dont ask him be there for him no body is asking you to be sheeps or blind but trustwothy trust his decisions we owe him that much trust your selves we owe it to ourselves .

we have elections ahead ma ba2a tenheblo help your leader be by his side support him be his hand his eyes and his voice around you if you still believe in what we always wanted to achieve . if you stopped believing this is another story leave silently and respect the others who are still fighting for the survival of what we still want to call Lebanon .

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[flamenguita]

Originally Posted by icemaker

this is the big question WHERE IS THE PEOPLE WHERE IS THE FPMers ?

all i see this days is critics , sarcasm , and less work .

what happened to this special spirit the spirit that drove them for almost 2 decades ? when you were beaten you never backed down , when you had no rights whatsoever and you were treated like S** you never stoped , you never questioned never doubted you kept going against ALL ODDS . what happened to you now ?
when you had nothing you fought like hell to get what you want today you have more then before you achieved a lot and got way ahead of others and how are you acting ?
the thing you call "movement" was created by this spirit , unfortunatly i do not see it today it vanished, you , all of you are no longer the same YOU changed YOU lost the spirit, the will and the motives . obviously the old generation have faith more then you young have and dont blame it on your leader your leader knows the past and is able to read and analyse the coming days you dont even read you dont analyse you like to speculate and throw your speculation as if they were reality you prefer to attack and blame others for what you failled to do by yourself .

riz2alla when FPMers did not wait for leadership to give them a push or a signal , when all our actions had for first base our beliefs in a cause and were instigated by personal initiatives . we use to attack with one weapon our faith in what we believe is right . where are you FPMers ?
you never waited for someone to organise your moves , your ideas or your actions you use to give the best you had no one was able to break your will .

today you blame your leadership ? yes GMA should be back to Paris eat saumon and drink champagne maybe then you will have again a motive . maybe the occupation was your target but you failed to see that today your existence as free citizens is your target a citizen who should have rights in a country where citizens rights are nothing but a joke a country drawning in corruption and this is what you should be fighting along with your leadership , you failed to see that you still have a battle to make to achieve the after occupation = restore a country , rebuild its institutions , demolish corruption , to do so you have a whole program infront of you and your should know it by heart and work to implement it spread it and teach it in his/her serrounding instead you are attacking yourself what a shame . your critics are not even constructive .

i dont say some people in the leadership are working enough and working in the right place and on the right target we all know there is a lack somewhere specialy when it comes to working more with the young base but should this stop you from doing what you do best ? should this stop you from being motivated and driven by your will to achieve the change ?
GMA is not a God and do not have many hands or many heads you should be his eyes his hands his tongue and his driving force for him you are and he consider you his power but day after day with your doubts your endless whining and nagging you prove that he is nothing more then an old man trying to do a miracles with people who insist on selfdistruction . what you are giving GMA or FPM ? what are you doing ? he is taking the big part of responsability what are you doing beside questioning , doubting and naging ? he is fighting for you each step is carefully studied if you failed to see or to understand it it is not his problem he is always more then clear in all his speaches wlak he even bi charebkon yehon bel mal3a2a and yet vous cherchez la petite puce , you want to be informed about details while you are not even working on the basics .

you always see the negative parts and failed to see the positive hudge things we achieved, knowing all the pressure and evil we had to face . you failled to see the positive aproach even if it was done slowly but carefully infront of your eyes and you saw the good sides an outcomes, but you prefer to nag . few days ago i was having lunch with friends one of them is a Kataeb (very very very kataeb ) you know what she told me ? she said "chapeau bas for Gebran Bassil he is doing a great job i think he is one of the best ministers we had in a long time Mario Aoun is good too realy mwafa2in ya tayyar bel ministers tab3oulkon bravo . sahih ya haram they have a difficult job with all this mess but walla bravo ." and from my part i said "walla wejbeti ana hanikon bi hal family iranian roots " i will spare you the hilarious reply she gave me !!!!!!

when was the last time any of you mentioned the good work done by any one in tayyar ? all i see is attacks w maskhara GROW UP . responsables of media should to their job better , students as well , normal citizen same , each one of us has a responsability ....are we doing what we should do ?
and now you are doubting GMA motives ya 3ayni 3alaykon . LFers sound like angels compared to you at least they never question the evil beside their master's mind you doubt GMA who is fighting to restore the rights for so long hijaked by a bunch of criminals ?.

we always had to face the power of dirty electoral money nothing new , the dirty propaganda nothing new , the filthy political corruption nothing new , nothing changed on this level did this stoped us before ? we never had money we never had any support did it break our will ? we were more organised then now WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU ? .... YOU changed you are no longer creative . sorto may3in waiting for leadership.. BE CREATIVE take initiatives send them to Rabiyeh as u used to do when GMA was in paris walaw hala2 Rabiyeh sarit unreachable while Paris was reachable ? when there is a will there is always a way but seems noone has the will ...dont find exuses for your failiure you want organisation ? DO IT , GMA can not do every thing and can not work on all levels you should be the base working to make this base grow let GMA work on more important issues .
our principles did not change our goals are the same but you do not read you have no patience badkon el echya kouni fa kanat you dont see that things are far more complicated then what you see and we are working like walking on a living volcano ... ignorance is your worst ennemy and you became your own ennemy .

your attitude is what is driving you to failiure stop acting like spoiled kids one thing is sure we are not spoiled kids we built what we have today with our own hard work dont distroy it with your stupidity . DONT WAIT , ACT . we have committee students leaders waynon chou am ya3mlo ? we have committees on all levels are they doing their jobs ???????

i saw with my own eyes how there is out there honest courageous FPMers with the same will and same devotion i still have hope i believe we can do it . GMA need you dont ask him be there for him no body is asking you to be sheeps or blind but trustwothy trust his decisions we owe him that much trust your selves we owe it to ourselves .

we have elections ahead ma ba2a tenheblo help your leader be by his side support him be his hand his eyes and his voice around you if you still believe in what we always wanted to achieve . if you stopped believing this is another story leave silently and respect the others who are still fighting for the survival of what we still want to call Lebanon .

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i back u up in every word samer w i hope that loosing in NDU is the shoot we need to really work for the elections if we want to win!

[Tchmouny]

شباب صرلنا فترة ما عم نعمل شي!!!!

نشاءاللّه البوكس اللّي اكلنا مبارح يكون عنجد شي منيح لبعدين و متل ما قال الجنرال: ما تناموا ع حرير تما توعوا ع حريري

يلاّ شدّوا الهمّة

[xcoder]

I said it before and i will say it now.
As long FPM stays on the same path doing nothing but saying we're gonna win and we will do this and that, we will have nothing but a big certain loss by 2009 elections if we keep giving ourselves more morphine.

What needs to be done is stop those eating/dancing activities and start doing stuff on ground.

Words are cheap and free we can blame the new FPM generation and youth being lazy, but the true fact is that the Leadership itself turned lazy and formal.

The youth cannot stay 24/7 motivated, they need something to work for. That was proved in 14march 2004 -2005 elections and 2006-2007 down town demonstrations. What is being said is touching everyone of us and doubting our support and what we gave, just for the sake of not criticizing the leadership.

Self criticism is a need and kind of freedom that always existed inside FPM even in the most glorious days.

For the sake of keeping FPM light and cause of building a secular clean country and society have the will and the freedom to point to what's right and what's wrong. Transparency and reform are our slogans after having back our independance and sovereignty.

Stop worrying about what others think about you, stop trying to become another regular Lebanese party full of sectarian crap and turn into sheep following a figure.

In my opinion, General Aoun is the most and maybe the only wise leader in this country looking for a solution.
General Aoun cannot do this alone and he's not even supposed to do this alone. GMA is not alone in the leadership and he does mistakes like any other human being.

Sectarian speech in FPM is like putting water on fire, it won't motivate the base at all, we're just using a strategy that showed nothing but failure so far.
Partnership, reform, transparency, secularism are FPM gasoline.

I can't believe we reached a level where FPM compares itself to LF or Kataeb and use same style speeches and slogans. That's really shameful.

[Rami_s]

ليس الفخر عدم سقوطك بل نهوضك كلما سقطت

[Sheriff Ice]

xcoder, i i agree with you,

i was saying same thing in a different forum,


that each time some tells us something we stop and we want to argue with him,

"we should move on"

Guyz when the occupation was here that used to say you are Israeli we didn't listen we acted like nothing happened, we just kept walking

this is what we need to do

not each time someone tells us you are Syrians and Iranians we need to give him explanation,

we know that we are Lebanese we know that we are clean like snow we don't need to give them any explanation

guyz Just keep walking

"الطريق طويل و المعركة صعبة"

[Jess]

Originally Posted by Rami_s

ليس الفخر عدم سقوطك بل نهوضك كلما سقطت

For that reason, we HAVE to work hard for the coming elections from this moment!

This isnt a game guys!
this is our country!
our dignity!


WE WANT BACK THE AOUNIST SPIRIT !!!!

[M|ch]

actually im just sick of us being always the edamiye !
ma3 el az3ar az3ar w ma3 el edame edame

mafi wala edame gheir ma n2akalo 7a2o bhal dene

[jadm]

Originally Posted by xcoder

I said it before and i will say it now.
As long FPM stays on the same path doing nothing but saying we're gonna win and we will do this and that, we will have nothing but a big certain loss by 2009 elections if we keep giving ourselves more morphine.

What needs to be done is stop those eating/dancing activities and start doing stuff on ground.

Words are cheap and free we can blame the new FPM generation and youth being lazy, but the true fact is that the Leadership itself turned lazy and formal.

The youth cannot stay 24/7 motivated, they need something to work for. That was proved in 14march 2004 -2005 elections and 2006-2007 down town demonstrations. What is being said is touching everyone of us and doubting our support and what we gave, just for the sake of not criticizing the leadership.

Self criticism is a need and kind of freedom that always existed inside FPM even in the most glorious days.

For the sake of keeping FPM light and cause of building a secular clean country and society have the will and the freedom to point to what's right and what's wrong. Transparency and reform are our slogans after having back our independance and sovereignty.

Stop worrying about what others think about you, stop trying to become another regular Lebanese party full of sectarian crap and turn into sheep following a figure.

In my opinion, General Aoun is the most and maybe the only wise leader in this country looking for a solution.
General Aoun cannot do this alone and he's not even supposed to do this alone. GMA is not alone in the leadership and he does mistakes like any other human being.

Sectarian speech in FPM is like putting water on fire, it won't motivate the base at all, we're just using a strategy that showed nothing but failure so far.
Partnership, reform, transparency, secularism are FPM gasoline.

I can't believe we reached a level where FPM compares itself to LF or Kataeb and use same style speeches and slogans. That's really shameful.

i dont know if you are the same xcoder on other forum , but i was very impressed about what u wrote on other forum but unfortunatly they delete the thread , why dont u try to create another thread with the same logic? ( i dont know if they will accept the thread hehe )

ur ideas really needs to be discussed , w lezim yisma3ouna

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by jadm

i dont know if you are the same xcoder on other forum , but i was very impressed about what u wrote on other forum but unfortunatly they delete the thread , why dont u try to create another thread with the same logic? ( i dont know if they will accept the thread hehe )

ur ideas really needs to be discussed , w lezim yisma3ouna

LOL i duno what is hapening but each time we try to fix somthing they just delete the thread

we are not criticizing just hek to criticize we are Aounist we are FPMers we never asked for somthing in return they are not getting this

we want us back like we always have been
we want they spirit back
the spirit of free sacrifices the spirit of liberation

now is more difficult than before

i think we should try to reach rabye GMA will listen
GMA likes us GMA hopes in US

he will listen im sure he will do

and if not i think we have the right to keep walking on the same road and dont care to someone

"معركة الأوطان لا ترحم"

GMA knows this