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Old 03-17-2009   #21
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Sooner or later Lebanon will be an islamic country with a muslim president!! not because of hizeballah no!! be smart and think the christians in lebanon were arround 45-50% long time ago! now arround 22-25% most of them hejaro w still 3am bi hejro! with time the christians ra7 y2elo ktir and Lebanon terkibto btetghayar not because FM or HA badon hek because this is a fact and it is clear metel 3ein l chames!!! as u all know in syria there is more christians w manon mbaynin leh? because they are minority and we in lebanon as christians will be also minority.

Now to answer the question who can stop HA from having an islamic state? The answer is clear the lebanese!! I'm sure sunnis,druz want also an islamic state just like all the arabic countries but who is stopping them? The christians in lebanon! bas berja3 la 2awal chi 7kito l mase7iye ma3 l wa2et ra7 y2elo w bi batil bi 2idna na3mil chi!!! this is a fact!!! w lebnen bi sir balad 2esleme bi HA w bala HA

I am a Christian and i don't care if a Muslim was elected as a president. In fact, the current Lebanese system is a rotten one, and every religious system will be a rotten one. I mind having a religious state whatever it was, Christian or Muslim, and no one can implement such a state in Lebanon, even the majority of Muslims in Lebanon are not with implementing an Islamic state in Lebanon.

People why can't you live with the idea of the Lebanese identity ?? in this country we have a total different culture than the Arab one, in Lebanon Lebanese are used to live freely, no one can enchain them with a religious system or backward cultures.
Lebanon will never turn into a religious country (Christian or Muslim) because the Lebanese people cannot live in such a system, even if Lebanon became a country with 100% of Muslim inhabitants they won't form an Islamic state, such thing is applied on Christians.

We are heading to a secular country where people are equals, where religion is just a personal opinion, face it... religious systems are heading to disappearance ... l 3alam bet2addem la 2eddem ma bterja3 la wara


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Old 03-17-2009   #22
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I am a Christian and i don't care if a Muslim was elected as a president. In fact, the current Lebanese system is a rotten one, and every religious system will be a rotten one. I mind having a religious state whatever it was, Christian or Muslim, and no one can implement such a state in Lebanon, even the majority of Muslims in Lebanon are not with implementing an Islamic state in Lebanon.
everyone is....if their religion has the majority they will.....

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People why can't you live with the idea of the Lebanese identity ?? in this country we have a total different culture than the Arab one, in Lebanon Lebanese are used to live freely, no one can enchain them with a religious system or backward cultures.
ma3 l wa2et it'll become one culture since the other culture 3am thejire and was w dunno eza ba3da 3am yechteghlo ta yahjrouwa....( i think culture is somehow related to religion)

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Lebanon will never turn into a religious country (Christian or Muslim) because the Lebanese people cannot live in such a system, even if Lebanon became a country with 100% of Muslim inhabitants they won't form an Islamic state, such thing is applied on Christians.
i have a different view in this and i believe fi sira3 in lebanon on which religion bessir 3anda more power and a bigger number so henne byestelmo l 7ekem...

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We are heading to a secular country where people are equals, where religion is just a personal opinion, face it... religious systems are heading to disappearance ... l 3alam bet2addem la 2eddem ma bterja3 la wara
yeah right secular country.....maybe me and you will accept but the majority won't.....+ mtl ma eltellak it's right l 3alam byet2adam ma byerja3....bass baddak tle2e 3alam....
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everyone is....if their religion has the majority they will...
this is ur personnal thinking.

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ma3 l wa2et it'll become one culture since the other culture 3am thejire and was w dunno eza ba3da 3am yechteghlo ta yahjrouwa....( i think culture is somehow related to religion)
so, ur culture is different than mine?
what's next ? talking about "quality" and "quantity" ?


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everyone is....if their religion has the majority they will.....
what if u are the majority ?
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this is ur personnal thinking.
ok personnal thinking bass fi we2i3 u can't deny it ....and in here u only find parties based on religion.....enno mou3zam l 3alam met3all2a bl ta2yfye....so my opinion is based on this ....

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so, ur culture is different than mine?
what's next ? talking about "quality" and "quantity" ?
no i'm not talking about quantity or quality and it depends on how u define "culture" ...but for me i think yeah there isn't one culture in lebanon....there are mixture of cultures and fi2a mennoun based on religion....


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what if u are the majority ?
ma fhemet...enno ur talking as if my religion is the majority?! well i don';t accept to have a sectarian system min ma ken ykoun l majority....but yeah most of the people will surely work for this....and everyone enno me3na l 7ake....akid there is always a part who'se against it...but in general most of the people be2aydo l fekra

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everyone is....if their religion has the majority they will.....
That's what you think, but i am sure that it isn't the truth.

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ma3 l wa2et it'll become one culture since the other culture 3am thejire and was w dunno eza ba3da 3am yechteghlo ta yahjrouwa....( i think culture is somehow related to religion)
No, culture is not 100% related to religion, in fact religions in their nature are great and full of morals, and if they were reflected on the culture we would have the best culture ever, but unfortunately the true meaning of religion in Lebanon and sectarian systems doesn't exist, what does exist are some wrong attitudes and corrupted policies that are being justified under the pretext of protecting a certain religion or sect.

And no, immigration is a problem which all the Lebanese people whatever was their religion, are suffering from.

The Lebanese culture is in my opinion the culture of every Lebanese, not a certain sect, and i do believe that even Muslims in Lebanon do not live the same way as Muslims in other Arab countries, and have a different view about everything.

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i have a different view in this and i believe fi sira3 in lebanon on which religion bessir 3anda more power and a bigger number so henne byestelmo l 7ekem...
No it is not the case, in Lebanon we have feudal politicians who are using religion as a pretext to keep their chairs and shares, and in order to make their fortunes and securing the future of their children who will become the future politicians and the protectors of the sect. in addition to those feudal politicians, men of religion are afraid of losing their power if a secular state took place, so they form with those politicians something called "corruption".
That's what politics in Lebanon is all about, no one cares about his religion, they just use it as a pretext to justify their corruption, crimes and theft.

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yeah right secular country.....maybe me and you will accept but the majority won't.....+ mtl ma eltellak it's right l 3alam byet2adam ma byerja3....bass baddak tle2e 3alam....
As long as people are blind, we can't blame them, it's our role to enlighten them about the sad reality we are living in.. it needs time, but everyone should start from his own.

So and back to the topic, i do believe that Hezbollah are Lebanese, and they have no real intentions in applying an Islamic state in Lebanon, in addition to all the reasons that were given in the previous posts.
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