Mabrouk Tashnag, C&R and opposition

[SysTaMatIcS]

guess whos back ,back again , tell a friend , doables back

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Jose

Most of u remember me as doable.

I still see chaingang brainwashing, talking crap. We gave u ur seat. tashnag has 10000 votes in maten out of 80000. we gave ur seat( 1 out of 8 ). WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

U notice ur going to make us lose? U notice ur taking the country to syrian, iranian path?

I think next time there is elections, armenians be banished out of it for good. This is utter joke.

Racist, Sectarian to the max and funny analysis, that's all you need to be a 14feb supporter.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that Tashnag and FPM gave Pierre Gemayel a seat in 2005 and took it back in 2007. "we gave you" 2al loool

If Tashnag were "sheep" as you were saying, why were you trying to ally with them?

[RAM BÓY™]

Originally Posted by xcoder

Racist, Sectarian to the max and funny analysis, that's all you need to be a 14feb supporter.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that Tashnag and FPM gave Pierre Gemayel a seat in 2005 and took it back in 2007. "we gave you" 2al loool

If Tashnag were "sheep" as you were saying, why were you trying to ally with them?

يسلم تممك

[Choukou]

can someone kick this guy out of here!!!! Tell me who I hate I tell you racist people!!

ba3ed na2is hal jalbout yeje yetzeka 3layna!!

[Jose]

Originally Posted by xcoder

Racist, Sectarian to the max and funny analysis, that's all you need to be a 14feb supporter.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that Tashnag and FPM gave Pierre Gemayel a seat in 2005 and took it back in 2007. "we gave you" 2al loool

If Tashnag were "sheep" as you were saying, why were you trying to ally with them?

they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

[Jose]

Originally Posted by Kain

Chaingang and Krazy already explained things and made them crystal clear so no need to comment here.

They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Jose

they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

I was distributing FPM list with pierre gemayel name on it.
Look at the difference between pierre gemayel and eddy abi lamaa(24217) and you will know what i'm talking about.

Btw brahim kenaan had 56840 votes in 2005 and pierre gemayel 29421.
You would have had 2 seats if Hariri would have accepted to risk it for you and drop the Hariri-Kenaan law but he didn't, u're just not worth it for him.

loool 2007? i hope you will be runing 2009 elections with the same calculations you wil certainly insure a victory hehe.

I don't know how you did your calculations but they're so illogical. The elections are going to be held soon, you better come up with better excuses. Your best chances are khare2 from Gemayel and Murr only.

[TAREK®]

Originally Posted by Nada

can someone kick this guy out of here!!!! Tell me who I hate I tell you racist people!!

ba3ed na2is hal jalbout yeje yetzeka 3layna!!

ba3do mou7taram the one u should see is deebabounyeb

Originally Posted by Jose

They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.

no he said u are jehil becoz u are one

Originally Posted by Jose

they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

at least we will win, we deserve it or not mesh shagheltak hay

[Kain]

Originally Posted by Jose

They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.

Originally Posted by Jose

Okey, did u see anything about lebanon? NO!

Originally Posted by chaingang_100

Those goals you mentioned were put back in 1890 ya jehil,

Originally Posted by Krazy

As for the goals of the party. Those are the general goals which are agreed upon by the international committee and not only by the central committee inside Lebanon.
For Lebanon, the central committee decides on the internal issue (without the intervention of the central committees in any other country) and as I remember Mr. Hovig Mkhitarian read the plans.

Another note: the central committe is elected by the "sheep" that u're calling us

AND regarding the site you chose...

This is from an earlier thread:

Originally Posted by Joujoulika

hi i wanted to know the official website of tashnaq in lebanon plz (i searched 4 it i couldnt find it)

thanks in advance

Originally Posted by Krazy

There is no official Tashnag (Lebanon) website even though lately there has been Lebanese Armenian website which seems to be for the Tashnag in Lebanon (the site is in Armenian).

There are websites for the ranks of Tashnag and one of them was mentioned above:
www.lemagan.com
The above mentioned is for the Armenian Youth Association.

Another one is www.Badanegan.com (again for the youths)
There is also www.zavarian.org (Zavarian Student Association)

[Krazy]

Originally Posted by Kain

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AND regarding the site you chose...

They made the new site after that reply but still Jose chose to take the goals from the history part.

As for what Mr. Mkhitarian announced during the conference that was held to introduce the candidates.

وقال: "وانطلاقا من مبادئه التاريخية منذ الاستقلال وخاصة بعد عام 1957، قرر الحزب ترشيح شخصيات ارمنية غير حزبية في دوائر بيروت الاولى والثانية وزحلة، ومرشح حزبي في دائرة المتن الشمالي، وخوض الانتخابات المقبلة بهدف اعادة احياء كتلة النواب الارمن ايمانا منه بالمبادئ التالية:

اولا: لبنان كان ولا يزال بلد التعايش بين اللبنانيين حيث احترام الذات واحترام الرأي الآخر وقرار عدم الغاء الآخر او التهميش.
ثانيا: يبقى لبنان سيدا حرا مستقلا بقرار جميع اللبنانيين وتضافر جهود جميع ابنائه حيثما وجدوا والى اي طائفة او جهة سياسية انتموا.
ثالثا: لبنان وطن جميع اللبنانيين دون استثناء ودون منة من احد. اساس المواطنية هو الوفاء والولاء والتضحية من اجل لبنان ومن اجل ديمومته وازدهاره وقوته ورسالته.
رابعا: ان الانتخابات النيابية وجه من وجوه الديمقراطية في لبنان، يجب اجرائها في الوقت المحدد وحسب الانظمة المرعية دون اللجوء الى العنف او الخطاب السياسي المتشنج في جو من الحرية، بعيدا عن الضغوطات السياسية والاجتماعية والخدماتية والمالية والتوظيفية.

خامسا: ان التمثيل الصحيح في المجلس النيابي يساعد على حل مشاكل كبيرة بدءا من موضوع الانماء المتوازن ولقمة عيش المواطن الى موضوع مكافحة الفساد وصولا الى المحاسبة والمساءلة الصريحة التي تعتبر اساس الديمقراطية وفصل السلطات الدستورية.
سادسا: على اعضاء المجلس النيابي ان يلتقوا حول المؤسسات الشرعية وخاصة حول رأس الهرم، فخامة رئيس الجمهورية، الذي تم انتخابه بالتوافق الكامل، وحول الحكم الذي يمكنه ايجاد الحلول المرجوة لمعظم المشاكل على الساحة اللبنانية، بدءا من المشاكل المعيشية الذي يعاني منها المواطن اللبناني، الى موضوع العلاقة الديبلوماسية مع سوريا وترسيم الحدود، وصولا الى موضوع السلاح الفلسطيني خارج المخيمات وموضوع تحرير المناطق اللبنانية المحتلة من قبل اسرائيل ووقف الخروقات والاعتداءات الاسرائيلية، وصولا الى وضع الاستراتيجية الدفاعية.
سابعا: ان اعادة احياء كتلة النواب الارمن هي في الحقيقة اعادة لرمزية هذه الكتلة ولدورها الوطني ولقرارها الذاتي والتي كانت وستبقى حجر الاساس في المجلس النيابي لأجل المحافظة على الاستقرار السياسي والاعتدال والابتعاد عن الخطاب العنيف والمساعدة على تقريب وجهات النظر وفتح مساحات الحوار بين الاطراف المختلفة".