Is Abortion a woman's issue?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mr_j

why killing humans is bad:

1)if a person points a gun to my head and I start to freak out and cry, it's because I know what is happening, I know that I will lose my life, my contact with my loved ones, I won't be going back home to my wife and kids, I won't make my trip to france this summer(yeah right ) I do not want to lose my life, that baby will not think of anything, he will feel pain and struggle to avoid it, like all living creatures do, but he does not realise the outcome of that

In that case, is it not a murder when you kill a sleeping man (quick death, he wouldn't know it's happening) who has no friends or family?

[mr_j]

you missed the point
people know what death is
that man knows what death is, he happenes to be sleeping now, but you can wake him up and ask him if it is ok to kill him

the baby, even if you find a way to send him that question, he can't answer you, he doesn't know what life is

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mr_j

you missed the point
people know what death is
that man knows what death is, he happenes to be sleeping now, but you can wake him up and ask him if it is ok to kill him

the baby, even if you find a way to send him that question, he can't answer you, he doesn't know what life is

A two month old baby would still not know what death is, is it ok to kill him?

[mr_j]

enno I don't get it, 2 people had sex, the woman got pregnant, she wants to lose her baby, isn't she free to do that? enno chou elna 3ale2a ne7na to go and tell that woman "if you kill your own child we will send you to jail, you are forced to deliver it, ruin your body, and spend your life feeding it and taking care of it even if that makes you miserable"

it's her child, if she doesn't care, why should you?

if unwanted babies were aborted maybe we would have had less drug users and less homeless criminals roaming around the streets.

[Kain]

Originally Posted by mr_j

enno I don't get it, 2 people had sex, the woman got pregnant, she wants to lose her baby, isn't she free to do that? enno chou elna 3ale2a ne7na to go and tell that woman "if you kill your own child we will send you to jail, you are forced to deliver it, ruin your body, and spend your life feeding it and taking care of it even if that makes you miserable"

it's her child, if she doesn't care, why should you?

if unwanted babies were aborted maybe we would have had less drug users and less homeless criminals roaming around the streets.

You still didn't answer adam on his previous post and i'm really looking forward to seeing your answer

[mr_j]

according to my definition yes you can kill it
but I don't think any nation in the world would allow you to do that
according to me also killing a dog that belongs to someone that loves it is a crime

[Kain]

Originally Posted by mr_j

according to my definition yes you can kill it

Good then Adam can rest his case

Originally Posted by mr_j

according to me also killing a dog that belongs to someone that loves it is a crime

That's according to everyone...
Unless he's rabid and causing harm to others...then that's another issue...and let's not go off topic here

[Miss O.]

I do think it is just a woman's issue. and the only reason i say that is because even if the father decides they will raise the child. But that mother has to sacrifice her body for 9 months. And if she is not willing too she shouldnt have too.

We had a philiosophy lesson about this and just like each human (yes that embryo is considered to be a human) has the right to life. And at the same time NO ONE has the right to some one else's body.

So technically no one has the right to use ur body if u dont want it. and i agree with that. and to me its not just a matter if she is going to raise the child or not because she can give the child to his father or even give him/her up for adoption.

but my point is if the mother doesnt want the child to use her body then if she forcefully has to go through the pregnancy she could be morelikely to drink and go on drugs just because she doesnt CARE about the pregnancy so therefore that will lead to ruining the baby's life too.

so i dont see why it shouldnt be the mother's choice. its not all about when the baby is born. those nine months before are very important and if a woman isnt willing to take care of the child living in her then its not gonna be that easy for the child to continue their life afterwards especially if they are coming out of a mother with a drug addiction or an alcoholic


-Miss O.