we won!!

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by pouta

tayyib if they are FPMers theyr supposed to reject the money ,and the corrupting things..but still. not very convinced

not all the voters are fpm , there are neutrals .

[SysTaMatIcS]

[MARX ®]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

man where's beirut 2???

[KeXasthur]

Originally Posted by pouta

i can't understand the very small difference in keserwan. 3000 votes only ,compared to 2005
please someone give me an answer other than , bringing people from abroad.

I hate when people just look at the number without analyzing them or even checking the details of the numbers.

FPM in Keserwen got in 2005, average 34,900 votes. In 2009, they got average 31,700. Which means they lost around 3,200 votes only. Let's say these 3,200 votes went the other side, this means that the average on their list would become something like 20,500. But their list got average 26,700 or so. So how did they get these additional 6,200 votes ?
Well, The percentage of participation in ****erwan this time was 70% ( highest in Lebanon) whereas last time it was 64%. So these are about 4,000 votes plus 2,000+ independents who probably felt like the dollars that was being paid in public was a once in a lifetime opportunity.

In short, el batrak, church, petrodollar, America, wel west killo, lf, kataeb, kitleh (:lol propaganda, diaspora votes, wlek allah kamen 7otto ma3on, and still GMA won.

[KeXasthur]

Also for those talking about the Shiite helping GMA win. First, we wanted them to help us win. It should make FPM proud if the Shiite votes go for FPM in the majority.

However, for the sake of the "christian majority" argument.

The difference between the two lists 2,900.
The shiites in ****erwan , even if 70% of them voted ( which apparently was not the case), and even if 100% of those 70% voted for FPM ( which also is not the case) then at the very most the number will be 970 votes. So they won't make a difference with 2,900 votes difference it will remain 2,000 votes difference. So Keserwen ya Batrak , doesn't want to listen to you or your petrodollar backup or your carlos eddeh puppy. Rou7 3ala el vatican 3ayyit honik. Ma 7ada taye2 yshouf khele2tak 3al TV ba2a.

3ayyatit mnee7 , halla2 mbosit bi 12 nayeb la 14 March christians !! hayde manna mouthelatheh wala 7atta moureba3a.

[pouta]

Originally Posted by KeXasthur

I hate when people just look at the number without analyzing them or even checking the details of the numbers.

FPM in Keserwen got in 2005, average 34,900 votes. In 2009, they got average 31,700. Which means they lost around 3,200 votes only. Let's say these 3,200 votes went the other side, this means that the average on their list would become something like 20,500. But their list got average 26,700 or so. So how did they get these additional 6,200 votes ?
Well, The percentage of participation in ****erwan this time was 70% ( highest in Lebanon) whereas last time it was 64%. So these are about 4,000 votes plus 2,000+ independents who probably felt like the dollars that was being paid in public was a once in a lifetime opportunity.

In short, el batrak, church, petrodollar, America, wel west killo, lf, kataeb, kitleh (:lol propaganda, diaspora votes, wlek allah kamen 7otto ma3on, and still GMA won.

this is why i asked !!

[KeXasthur]

Originally Posted by pouta

this is why i asked !!

Yep, also I'm sure in Baabda the Christians determined the votes same as Jbeil ( almost same difference as Keserwan or a bit more).
Also, in my previous posts I claimed the difference between the two lists is average 2,900. It's average 4,278. So I really don't know how they came up with the claim at all.

[Ronz]

Guys Keserwen result should make us know how strong we are..

in keserwen we defeated:

- Batrak with his last minute speech (a speech that should be well investigated later on).
- Keserwen Traditional families: keserwen is known to be controlled buy families(khazen, bon, frem,...).
- Money and money and money: huge amounts of money were distirbuted.. although from what i have seen on ground that we managed to convince people to '2bad menno ntekheb doddo' (this is what i did ).
- Propaganda about hizballa and wileyet el fakih that was the main point that kataeb(with the great effort they did in keserwen) focused on.
- a sample of the whole christian 14 feb parties (kataeb, LF, Ketleh, ahrar).


We proved once again that people's choice in keserwen is against EKTA3IYEH...

We proved that we are able to win in a pure christian environment no matter how the pressure was big..

We proved that GENERAL AOUN is the true christian leader, and if anyone doubts that, all he has to do is try to beat at least Gilberte Zouein in keserwen

[Sheriff Ice]

People Get Real,
Now we lost, whatever is the reason.

That is history.

We should start planning for the next step(Im not talking prepration for 2013 elections).

We have been always visionary people, we should start looking to the futur now.

[-t-o-n-y-]

actually no we didn't win....we lost....they have l aktarye bl parlement....and we have l 2a2allye.....it doesn't matter if we have a bigger number of people who voted for us...we accepted this electoral law, w bhal 2anoun hek, ma khas min 3ando aktarye bl cha3eb.....so we lost....