How can we let zionists attack Jesus and Mary?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by getryne

every jew is a zionist until the opposite is proved.......... simple as

Every person is guilty until proving otherwise, is that what you're saying?

[getryne]

Originally Posted by Adam

Every person is guilty until proving otherwise, is that what you're saying?

if u get like this, yeah it is..... every jew is a zionist(guilty in my eye) until opposite's proved, bt in their eyes, every jew is a zionist(patriotic) until he's proved to be a traitor.... zionism is the national movement of jews.... just like qaeda, hizbullah,ikhwan musliminm,etc r national movement for muslims(nd of course they're not the same, hizbullah r lebo heroes,qaeda r american leftovers),just like syrian social nationalism is the national movement 4 great syria(nd am a proud syrian nationalist), some people understand that islam beleive in nations,others beleive just in islam(nd everything else is black), well 4 jews, they call for their israel only,thats wat their book nd god tell them,everything else is either an animal or a traitor.........

[wkhourry]

Originally Posted by majousseh

Judaism is a religion that must be respected. the title of this thread contains racist statement. i'm sure that our pal wkhoury didn't mean it.

the issue u r talking about was commited by an israeli zionist.

I have one question for you: why if we talk about Judaism or Sionist or Israel, you treat us of "racist"?

Each time a politician (of whatever nationality) accuses Israel of war crimes, he is immadiately accused to be a facist.

Each time a person makes any supposition or doubt of what happened in WWII, he is immadiately attacked or sued.

Israel as well as the Sionist do not recognize any massacre or genocide, either if this massacre is perpetrated by Isreali's soldiers (like in Gaza, they said that the civilians killed were all terrorists) or if the genocide is made by others (like the Armenian's genocide, Israel do not want to recognize it, for them there is only one genociade: the Shoah).

So, I am not racist but realist:
1) The Tv spot was diffused on an Isareli TV.
2) The Judaism Institution did not condemn the tv's spot.

[SysTaMatIcS]

you people drive me crazy when you say Judaism is not related to zionism , or doesnt support it . thats the best laugh in the century .

[Adam]

Originally Posted by wkhourry

I have one question for you: why if we talk about Judaism or Sionist or Israel, you treat us of "racist"?

Each time a politician (of whatever nationality) accuses Israel of war crimes, he is immadiately accused to be a facist.

Each time a person makes any supposition or doubt of what happened in WWII, he is immadiately attacked or sued.

Israel as well as the Sionist do not recognize any massacre or genocide, either if this massacre is perpetrated by Isreali's soldiers (like in Gaza, they said that the civilians killed were all terrorists) or if the genocide is made by others (like the Armenian's genocide, Israel do not want to recognize it, for them there is only one genociade: the Shoah).

We are not defending Zionism or Israel, we are defending a religion. That is what we want, we want people to differentiate between Judaism and Zionism.

And to go japing about the way criticism of Israel is dealt with. I know that every time someone criticises Israel he's called an Anti-Semite cause I've been called that more times than you can count.

[getryne]

Originally Posted by Adam

We are not defending Zionism or Israel, we are defending a religion. That is what we want, we want people to differentiate between Judaism and Zionism.

And to go japing about the way criticism of Israel is dealt with. I know that every time someone criticises Israel he's called an Anti-Semite cause I've been called that more times than you can count.

already told u wats the difference between both, each 1 is a compliment 4 the other, the religion nd its political(national) movement..... when u call 4 a nation 4 ur religion then ur goin thru politics/ready to play it/ready 2 fight 4 it........
btw anybody read anything abt jews history, how they lived like baddou(ghajar) thru their whole history,how they got lost for 40 yrs in sina2 nd didnt know how 2 get out from there, wat did moussa say abt them(his people), they never had a nation/civilisation..... y only christians nd muslims exist in the middle east , while jews left(or had to

[xcoder]

With such mentality no doubt why Lebanese Jews left the country for no return. Why are you relying Jews to Zionism.
I do not accept to rely Islam to alkaeda nor Jews to Zionism.

[getryne]

Originally Posted by xcoder

With such mentality no doubt why Lebanese Jews left the country for no return. Why are you relying Jews to Zionism.
I do not accept to rely Islam to alkaeda nor Jews to Zionism.

here's my point>>>>>>>>> jews r zionists till opposite's proved........
no matter how nice or bad r these people, this conflict's gonna keep on, we're born for it>> die for it, at least i talk abt myself as a syrian nationalist, how come every single race nd religion survived in such a perfect culture nd area (northern middle east, or great syria, or sham or watever u wanna call it) start countin, babeliyin,assyrians, kan3aniyin, kaldan,kurds, turks,arman,arabs,arami,siryani, sunna shi3a,catholics,orthodox,protestante,druz,alawites ............ nd its only jews who couldnt survive, y they left this area long time ago,is it that all these people r wrong,nd zionists r rite??? since the day they stepped this land comin from egypt,this conflict started, nd gonna keep on, 7atta ish3ar 2akhar, till another "king Sarjoun" or "Salahediine" shows up..... btw bl nesbe lal lebo jews, welcome bak anytime, bt i doubt it :P :P

[majousseh]

The real threat...

Israël menace les couvents d’une église d’autodestruction
(source:alterinfo)

Au moins 500 maisons et appartements loués par l’Eglise des familles chrétiennes dans la Vieille Ville sont sous menace d’ordres d’auto-démolition par la municipalité israélienne de Jérusalem, ont dit les responsables de l’église samedi.
Selon une déclaration du Centre Inter-Eglise de Jérusalem, quatre actions en justice sont actuellement en cours où il est demandé aux familles chrétiennes louant des terres ou des immeubles à l’église de démolir les prétendues rénovations de leurs maisons.

Bassam Ayyash, qui loue un appartement de 50m² à l’Eglise Orthodoxe Grecque, à l’intérieur du Couvent du Patriarcat, a reçu un ordre de démolition affirmant que son appartement est une extension de sa maison. Selon l’Eglise, « Bassam est inquiet de l’insistance des autorités à ne pas vouloir venir voir enquêter sur place. » « Ma seule maison est cet appartement de 50m². »

Un autre défendeur, Sami Wakileh, se souvient du Juge du tribunal israélien lui disant, lorsqu’il est allé chercher un permis pour rénover sa maison : “ Vous perdez un temps précieux. Ne rêvez pas obtenir un permis… » La maison de Sami, selon la déclaration de l’Eglise, est un vieil immeuble qu’il loue à l’Eglise et il a dépensé plus de 100.000 US$ pour la réparer et la rénover.

La plupart des maisons menacées appartiennent au Patriarcat Orthodoxe Grec et au Conservatoire Franciscain Catholique de la Terre Sainte.

Un des responsables de l’église a précisé que la chute du nombre des mariages l’année dernière s’expliquait par les difficultés croissantes à obtenir un permis de construire, ainsi qu’au problème de la réunification familiale, où des Palestiniens de Cisjordanie sont interdits de vivre avec leurs épouses à Jérusalem.

Le Père Ibrahim Faltas, curé de la paroisse catholique romaine de Jérusalem, a dit que le nombre de mariages catholiques en 2009 a diminué de presque moitié par rapport à l’année dernière.

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