Copenhagen Summit

**Jess** · 12-07-2009

Last chance for change

It dawned with the warmest winter on record in the United States. And when the sun sets this New Year's Eve, the decade of the 2000s will end as the warmest ever on global temperature charts.
Warmer still, scientists say, lies ahead.

Through ten years of global boom and bust, of breakneck change around the planet, of terrorism, war and division, all people everywhere under that warming sun faced one threat together: the buildup of greenhouse gases, the rise in temperatures, the danger of a shifting climate, of drought, weather extremes and encroaching seas, of untold damage to the world humanity has created for itself over millennia.

As the decade neared its close, the United Nations gathered presidents and premiers of almost 100 nations for a "climate summit" to take united action, to sharply cut back the burning of coal and other fossil fuels.
Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told them they had "a powerful opportunity to get on the right side of history" at the climate conference in Copenhagen.

Once again, however, disunity might keep the world's nations on this side of making historic decisions.
"Deep down, we know that you are not really listening," the Maldives' Mohammad Nasheed told fellow presidents at September's summit.
Nasheed's tiny homeland, a sprinkling of low-lying islands in the Indian Ocean, will be one of the earliest victims of seas rising from heat expansion and melting glaciers. On remote islets of Papua New Guinea, on Pacific atolls, on bleak Arctic shores, other coastal peoples in the 2000s were already making plans, packing up, seeking shelter.

The warming seas were growing more acid, too, from absorbing carbon dioxide, the biggest greenhouse gas in an overloaded atmosphere. Together, warmer waters and acidity will kill coral reefs and imperil other marine life — from plankton at the bottom of the food chain, to starfish and crabs, mussels and sea urchins.

Over the decade's first nine years, global temperatures averaged 0.6C higher than the 1951-1980 average, National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa) reported. And temperatures rose faster in the far north than any place else on Earth.

The decade's final three summers melted Arctic sea ice more than ever before in modern times. Greenland's gargantuan ice cap was pouring 3 per cent more meltwater into the sea each year. Every summer's thaw reached deeper into the Arctic permafrost, threatening to unlock vast amounts of methane, a global-warming gas.

At the bottom of the world, late in the decade, International Polar Year research found that Antarctica, too, was warming. Floating ice shelves fringing its coast weakened, some breaking away, allowing the glaciers behind them to push ice faster into the rising oceans.

On six continents the glaciers retreated through the 2000s, shrinking future water sources for countless millions of Indians, Chinese and South Americans. The great lakes of Africa were shrinking, too, from higher temperatures, evaporation and drought. Across the temperate zones, flowers bloomed earlier, lakes froze later, bark beetles bored their destructive way northward through warmer forests. In the Arctic, surprised Eskimos spotted the red breasts of southern robins.

Worst case scenario

In the 2000s, all this was happening faster than anticipated, scientists said. So were other things: By late in the decade, global emissions of carbon dioxide matched the worst case among seven scenarios laid down in 2001 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the UN scientific network formed to peer into climate's future. By year-end 2008, the 2000s already included eight of the ten warmest years on record. By 2060, that trajectory could push temperatures a dangerous 4C or more higher than pre-industrial levels, British scientists said.

By 2009, with a new president and Congress, Washington seemed ready to talk. But in the front ranks of climate research — where they scale the glaciers, drill into ocean sediments, monitor a changing Earth through a web of satellite eyes — scientists feared they were running out of time.
Before the turn of the last century, with slide rule, pencil and months of tedious calculation, Svante Arrhenius was the first to show that carbon dioxide would warm the planet — in 3,000 years. The brilliant Swede hadn't foreseen the 20th-century explosion in use of fossil fuels.
Today their supercomputers tell his scientific heirs a much more urgent story: To halt and reverse that explosion of emissions, to head off a planetary climate crisis, the ten years that dawn this January 1 will be the fateful years, the final chance, the last decade.

The Nations

UNITED STATES: offer to cut emissions by 17 per cent from 2005 levels by 2020, deepening to 30 per cent by 2025, 42 per cent by 2030 and 83 per cent by 2050.

RUSSIA:The government agreed to a cut of 20-25 per cent by 2020 from 1990 levels, raising its target from 15 per cent. This has not been confirmed officially.

CANADA: sees a reduction of 20 per cent by 2020 compared with 2006, equivalent to a fall of 3 per cent compared with the 1990 benchmark.

CHINA:It will take voluntary steps to cut the intensity of its CO2 emissions per unit of GDP by 40 to 45 per cent by 2020 from 2005 levels.

JAPAN: offers a cut of 25 per cent by 2020 relative to 1990, provided there is "a highly ambitious accord with participation by all major countries."

AUSTRALIA:Parliament has twice rejected a bill for reducing emissions by between 5 and 25 per cent by 2020 from 2000.

NORWAY: says it is willing to reduce emissions by 30 per cent by 2020 over 1990 levels, and says it is willing to consider going to 30 or 40 per cent. Also aims to be carbon neutral by 2030.

BRAZIL:Voluntary reduction of 36-39 per cent by 2020, mainly from tackling deforestation in the Amazon, as compared to its forecast level of emissions in 2020.

INDIA:Plans to reduce level of ‘emission intensity' by 20 to 25 per cent by 2020. Says its per-capita emissions are very low and cuts have to be borne by rich countries.
MEXICO: says it will propose slashing emissions by 50 per cent by 2050 so long as it receives international aid, and reduce emissions by 6 to 7 per cent by 2012.

Climate's decade in a nutshell
2001 - US President George W. Bush publicly rejects the 1997 Kyoto Protocol to rein in greenhouse gases.

2005 - After Russia's ratification, the Kyoto Protocol takes effect for 37 industrialised nations.

2005 - The year's average global temperatures are the highest in recorded history, Nasa reports.

2007 - The summer melt of Arctic sea ice is the greatest on record, the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre reports.

2007 - In its first assessment in six years, the UN scientific panel on climate projects temperatures may rise as much as 11.5 degrees Fahrenheit (6.4 degrees C) in the 21st century if nothing is done.

2009 - Focus falls on December's UN climate conference in Copenhagen as the arena for a new global agreement to combat warming.

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**Jess** · 12-07-2009

اليوم يفتتح "أكبر تجمع على الأرض" سعياً إلى اتفاق جديد لتغيّر المناخ

اجتمع المندوبون الذين وصلوا الى كوبنهاغن للمشاركة في المؤتمر الـ 15 للأمم المتحدة حول المناخ، عشية افتتاح هذا الحدث الذي سيتوج سنتين من المفاوضات، على أمل التوصل إلى اتفاق جديد يتعلق بتغير المناخ، وبدا أن التعهدات التي أُعلنت في الاسابيع الأخيرة لخفض الغازات المسببة للاحتباس الحراري تكاد تكون كافية لإبقاء تلك الظاهرة تحت السيطرة. (راجع العرب والعالم)

وحذر المسؤول عن المفاوضات المتعلقة بالمناخ في الأمم المتحدة إيفو دي بوير من أن "المجتمع العلمي أبلغنا ان امامنا بريق أمل ما بين خمس الى عشر سنين لتغيير مسار اتجاه الانبعاثات المتصاعد نزولاً. ولهذا السبب علينا ان نتحرك الآن. الوقت ينفد"، ولا بد من إنفاق مليارات الدولارت فوراً، ومئات المليارات سنوياً طوال عقد. ولا تزال قضية التمويل العائق الأول أمام التوصل إلى اتفاق ملزم. واوضح أنه "على المدى القصير سنكون في حاجة الى عشرة مليارات دولار سنة 2010، وعشرة أخرى سنة 2011، وايضا عشرة مليارات سنة 2012. ويجب ان يصرف هذا التمويل سريعاً".

ونصح دي بوير للمشاركين بالتركيز على اهداف بسيطة ممكنة التحقيق. وقال: "ما اريد ان اراه في نهاية هذا المؤتمر هو لائحة بأهداف الدول الغنية تكون طموحة وتتسم بالوضوح في شأن ما ستفعله الدول النامية الكبرى للحد من ارتفاع انبعاثاتها، ولائحة تعهدات مالية تجعل ممكناً لمجموعة الدول النامية الأوسع نطاقا ان تغير اتجاه نمو اقتصاداتها والتكيف مع التأثيرات الحتمية للتغير المناخي...".

ورحب بعدول الرئيس الأميركي باراك اوباما عن خططه السابقة للتوقف في كوبنهاغن في التاسع من كانون الأول في طريقه الى اوسلو لتسلم جائزة نوبل للسلام، وقراره المشاركة مع سائر الزعماء في اليوم الأخير للقمة.

وأمس انضمت جنوب افريقيا إلى نادي الدول الصناعية والنامية التي حددت أهدافاً لخفض انبعاثها من غازات الدفيئة خلال السنين العشر المقبلة بنسبة 34 في المئة.
وجاء في دراسة أصدرها برنامج الأمم المتحدة للبيئة أنه يتعين على كل بلدان العالم مجتمعة ألا تنفث أكثر من 44 مليار طن من ثاني أوكسيد الكربون بحلول سنة 2020 لتفادي مزيد من آثار الاحتباس الحراري. غير أن جمع كل الالتزامات المعلنة في هذا المجال سيجعل الانبعاثات 46 مليار طن، وهي حالياً 47 مليار طن.

ورأى رئيس الهيئة الحكومية لتغير المناخ التابعة للأمم المتحدة راجاندار باشوري أن في وسع أوباما التحرك من دون الكونغرس، في إشارة إلى تبني مجلس النواب، دون مجلس الشيوخ بعد، تشريعاً بيئياً. وتحدث عن "هامش واسع للمضي أبعد مما تم تبنيه". غير أنه لم لم يكن متفائلاً إلى حد توقع التوصل إلى اتفاق نهائي ملزم في كوبنهاغن، وإن يكن وصف المؤتمر بأنه "أكبر تجمع على الارض، ويجب ان يكلل بالنجاح".

ولم يستبعد كبير المفاوضين الأميركيين جوناثان بيرشينغ أن تبدي بلاده مرونة في التفاوض، وإن يكن من المستبعد أن ترتفع حصتها من خفض الغازات إلى أكثر من 17 في المئة عن مستويات 2005 بحلول سنة 2020، وهي النسبة التي تبناها مجلس النواب. ودافع عن موقف إدارته الذي لا يزال ناشطون بيئيون يعتبرونه غير كاف. وقال إنه قبل سنة، "كان لدينا موقف أن تلك المسألة (الاحتباس الحراري) لم تكن أساسية ولا حيوية"، في إشارة إلى موقف الإدارة الجمهورية السابقة.

وفي حديث الى قناة "تي في 5 موند" واذاعة فرنسا الدولية، تحدث الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة بان كي-مون عن نيته تأليف مجموعة خبراء "رفيعة المستوى بعيد (توقيع) اتفاق كوبنهاغن". وقال ان قدرة تلك المجموعة على اتخاذ قرارات في شأن عقوبات، "أمر نبحث فيه"، خصوصاً أنها ستضم العديد من "الرؤساء والخبراء والجامعيين والمسؤولين الاقتصاديين الذين سيبحثون طريقة المضي في مكافحة الاحتباس الحراري".

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**Sheriff Ice** · 12-07-2009

This Summit will be similar to Kyoto Summit and Rio Di Jinero Summit that were Held in the 1990's

The US will refuse the reform in order to protect their commerce and keep using the same policy of destruction all over the world.

RUSSIAN · 12-07-2009

the danger of "global warming" is just another imperialist fake. They want to stop some countries like china and India in the cultivation of their industry. So don't trust them
climate was changing in the past- it is a normal process.
Read this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ture-data.html

-t-o-n-y- · 12-07-2009

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Originally Posted by RUSSIAN

the danger of "global warming" is just another imperialist fake. They want to stop some countries like china and India in the cultivation of their industry. So don't trust them
climate was changing in the past- it is a normal process.
Read this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ture-data.html

fake or not, the quantity of pollution is raising (water, air....). So reducing the emissions of CO2 is a necessity ....and if u read what was posted by Jess united states should also reduce the emission of CO2 which also make her reduce or find a solution to its industry....plus US was the one refusing the reform so technically they're the ones l 3am yetdarraro if they accept to apply what is mentioned in Jess post and not only China and India.....

**mr_j** · 12-07-2009

it's not fake, it is very real and very dangerous and scary
but, we don't need a summit for nations to se results
it's all because of the united states, the united states is the biggest producer of fuel, many people don't know that, you think saudi arabia is the biggest producer of fuel

anyway no, the US is the biggest producer of fuel and at the same time the biggest importer

think about i this way, the US consumes more fuel than the rest of the world combined X 2
either they should cut down or there will be no results

enno what should the other nation do? what can we do?

if they really want to solve the situation they could take alot of good steps forward, like sell countries nuclear fuel and give them loans to build water/wind powered electricity
they could allow iran to use nuclear power to generate electricity

they could motivate governments to improve the transportation system, organise buses and build train stations etc... bas so far they don't seem very concerned with this

PS: planting trees does not help, our problem is that we took carbon that was underground(the fuel we dug out) and we burned it on the outside, even if we cover earth with plants it will not be enough to compensate for that

12-07-2009	#1
Jess Community Moderator Last Online: 06-23-2013 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14,267 Thanks: 7,236 Thanked 8,442 Times in 4,889 Posts Groans: 31 Groaned at 29 Times in 23 Posts	Copenhagen Summit Last chance for change It dawned with the warmest winter on record in the United States. And when the sun sets this New Year's Eve, the decade of the 2000s will end as the warmest ever on global temperature charts. Warmer still, scientists say, lies ahead. Through ten years of global boom and bust, of breakneck change around the planet, of terrorism, war and division, all people everywhere under that warming sun faced one threat together: the buildup of greenhouse gases, the rise in temperatures, the danger of a shifting climate, of drought, weather extremes and encroaching seas, of untold damage to the world humanity has created for itself over millennia. As the decade neared its close, the United Nations gathered presidents and premiers of almost 100 nations for a "climate summit" to take united action, to sharply cut back the burning of coal and other fossil fuels. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told them they had "a powerful opportunity to get on the right side of history" at the climate conference in Copenhagen. Once again, however, disunity might keep the world's nations on this side of making historic decisions. "Deep down, we know that you are not really listening," the Maldives' Mohammad Nasheed told fellow presidents at September's summit. Nasheed's tiny homeland, a sprinkling of low-lying islands in the Indian Ocean, will be one of the earliest victims of seas rising from heat expansion and melting glaciers. On remote islets of Papua New Guinea, on Pacific atolls, on bleak Arctic shores, other coastal peoples in the 2000s were already making plans, packing up, seeking shelter. The warming seas were growing more acid, too, from absorbing carbon dioxide, the biggest greenhouse gas in an overloaded atmosphere. Together, warmer waters and acidity will kill coral reefs and imperil other marine life — from plankton at the bottom of the food chain, to starfish and crabs, mussels and sea urchins. Over the decade's first nine years, global temperatures averaged 0.6C higher than the 1951-1980 average, National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa) reported. And temperatures rose faster in the far north than any place else on Earth. The decade's final three summers melted Arctic sea ice more than ever before in modern times. Greenland's gargantuan ice cap was pouring 3 per cent more meltwater into the sea each year. Every summer's thaw reached deeper into the Arctic permafrost, threatening to unlock vast amounts of methane, a global-warming gas. At the bottom of the world, late in the decade, International Polar Year research found that Antarctica, too, was warming. Floating ice shelves fringing its coast weakened, some breaking away, allowing the glaciers behind them to push ice faster into the rising oceans. On six continents the glaciers retreated through the 2000s, shrinking future water sources for countless millions of Indians, Chinese and South Americans. The great lakes of Africa were shrinking, too, from higher temperatures, evaporation and drought. Across the temperate zones, flowers bloomed earlier, lakes froze later, bark beetles bored their destructive way northward through warmer forests. In the Arctic, surprised Eskimos spotted the red breasts of southern robins. Worst case scenario In the 2000s, all this was happening faster than anticipated, scientists said. So were other things: By late in the decade, global emissions of carbon dioxide matched the worst case among seven scenarios laid down in 2001 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the UN scientific network formed to peer into climate's future. By year-end 2008, the 2000s already included eight of the ten warmest years on record. By 2060, that trajectory could push temperatures a dangerous 4C or more higher than pre-industrial levels, British scientists said. By 2009, with a new president and Congress, Washington seemed ready to talk. But in the front ranks of climate research — where they scale the glaciers, drill into ocean sediments, monitor a changing Earth through a web of satellite eyes — scientists feared they were running out of time. Before the turn of the last century, with slide rule, pencil and months of tedious calculation, Svante Arrhenius was the first to show that carbon dioxide would warm the planet — in 3,000 years. The brilliant Swede hadn't foreseen the 20th-century explosion in use of fossil fuels. Today their supercomputers tell his scientific heirs a much more urgent story: To halt and reverse that explosion of emissions, to head off a planetary climate crisis, the ten years that dawn this January 1 will be the fateful years, the final chance, the last decade. The Nations UNITED STATES: offer to cut emissions by 17 per cent from 2005 levels by 2020, deepening to 30 per cent by 2025, 42 per cent by 2030 and 83 per cent by 2050. RUSSIA:The government agreed to a cut of 20-25 per cent by 2020 from 1990 levels, raising its target from 15 per cent. This has not been confirmed officially. CANADA: sees a reduction of 20 per cent by 2020 compared with 2006, equivalent to a fall of 3 per cent compared with the 1990 benchmark. CHINA:It will take voluntary steps to cut the intensity of its CO2 emissions per unit of GDP by 40 to 45 per cent by 2020 from 2005 levels. JAPAN: offers a cut of 25 per cent by 2020 relative to 1990, provided there is "a highly ambitious accord with participation by all major countries." AUSTRALIA:Parliament has twice rejected a bill for reducing emissions by between 5 and 25 per cent by 2020 from 2000. NORWAY: says it is willing to reduce emissions by 30 per cent by 2020 over 1990 levels, and says it is willing to consider going to 30 or 40 per cent. Also aims to be carbon neutral by 2030. BRAZIL:Voluntary reduction of 36-39 per cent by 2020, mainly from tackling deforestation in the Amazon, as compared to its forecast level of emissions in 2020. INDIA:Plans to reduce level of ‘emission intensity' by 20 to 25 per cent by 2020. Says its per-capita emissions are very low and cuts have to be borne by rich countries. MEXICO: says it will propose slashing emissions by 50 per cent by 2050 so long as it receives international aid, and reduce emissions by 6 to 7 per cent by 2012. Climate's decade in a nutshell 2001 - US President George W. Bush publicly rejects the 1997 Kyoto Protocol to rein in greenhouse gases. 2005 - After Russia's ratification, the Kyoto Protocol takes effect for 37 industrialised nations. 2005 - The year's average global temperatures are the highest in recorded history, Nasa reports. 2007 - The summer melt of Arctic sea ice is the greatest on record, the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre reports. 2007 - In its first assessment in six years, the UN scientific panel on climate projects temperatures may rise as much as 11.5 degrees Fahrenheit (6.4 degrees C) in the 21st century if nothing is done. 2009 - Focus falls on December's UN climate conference in Copenhagen as the arena for a new global agreement to combat warming. Source __________________ If my smoking bothers you. Don't breathe.

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Jess Community Moderator Last Online: 06-23-2013 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14,267 Thanks: 7,236 Thanked 8,442 Times in 4,889 Posts Groans: 31 Groaned at 29 Times in 23 Posts	اليوم يفتتح "أكبر تجمع على الأرض" سعياً إلى اتفاق جديد لتغيّر المناخ اجتمع المندوبون الذين وصلوا الى كوبنهاغن للمشاركة في المؤتمر الـ 15 للأمم المتحدة حول المناخ، عشية افتتاح هذا الحدث الذي سيتوج سنتين من المفاوضات، على أمل التوصل إلى اتفاق جديد يتعلق بتغير المناخ، وبدا أن التعهدات التي أُعلنت في الاسابيع الأخيرة لخفض الغازات المسببة للاحتباس الحراري تكاد تكون كافية لإبقاء تلك الظاهرة تحت السيطرة. (راجع العرب والعالم) وحذر المسؤول عن المفاوضات المتعلقة بالمناخ في الأمم المتحدة إيفو دي بوير من أن "المجتمع العلمي أبلغنا ان امامنا بريق أمل ما بين خمس الى عشر سنين لتغيير مسار اتجاه الانبعاثات المتصاعد نزولاً. ولهذا السبب علينا ان نتحرك الآن. الوقت ينفد"، ولا بد من إنفاق مليارات الدولارت فوراً، ومئات المليارات سنوياً طوال عقد. ولا تزال قضية التمويل العائق الأول أمام التوصل إلى اتفاق ملزم. واوضح أنه "على المدى القصير سنكون في حاجة الى عشرة مليارات دولار سنة 2010، وعشرة أخرى سنة 2011، وايضا عشرة مليارات سنة 2012. ويجب ان يصرف هذا التمويل سريعاً". ونصح دي بوير للمشاركين بالتركيز على اهداف بسيطة ممكنة التحقيق. وقال: "ما اريد ان اراه في نهاية هذا المؤتمر هو لائحة بأهداف الدول الغنية تكون طموحة وتتسم بالوضوح في شأن ما ستفعله الدول النامية الكبرى للحد من ارتفاع انبعاثاتها، ولائحة تعهدات مالية تجعل ممكناً لمجموعة الدول النامية الأوسع نطاقا ان تغير اتجاه نمو اقتصاداتها والتكيف مع التأثيرات الحتمية للتغير المناخي...". ورحب بعدول الرئيس الأميركي باراك اوباما عن خططه السابقة للتوقف في كوبنهاغن في التاسع من كانون الأول في طريقه الى اوسلو لتسلم جائزة نوبل للسلام، وقراره المشاركة مع سائر الزعماء في اليوم الأخير للقمة. وأمس انضمت جنوب افريقيا إلى نادي الدول الصناعية والنامية التي حددت أهدافاً لخفض انبعاثها من غازات الدفيئة خلال السنين العشر المقبلة بنسبة 34 في المئة. وجاء في دراسة أصدرها برنامج الأمم المتحدة للبيئة أنه يتعين على كل بلدان العالم مجتمعة ألا تنفث أكثر من 44 مليار طن من ثاني أوكسيد الكربون بحلول سنة 2020 لتفادي مزيد من آثار الاحتباس الحراري. غير أن جمع كل الالتزامات المعلنة في هذا المجال سيجعل الانبعاثات 46 مليار طن، وهي حالياً 47 مليار طن. ورأى رئيس الهيئة الحكومية لتغير المناخ التابعة للأمم المتحدة راجاندار باشوري أن في وسع أوباما التحرك من دون الكونغرس، في إشارة إلى تبني مجلس النواب، دون مجلس الشيوخ بعد، تشريعاً بيئياً. وتحدث عن "هامش واسع للمضي أبعد مما تم تبنيه". غير أنه لم لم يكن متفائلاً إلى حد توقع التوصل إلى اتفاق نهائي ملزم في كوبنهاغن، وإن يكن وصف المؤتمر بأنه "أكبر تجمع على الارض، ويجب ان يكلل بالنجاح". ولم يستبعد كبير المفاوضين الأميركيين جوناثان بيرشينغ أن تبدي بلاده مرونة في التفاوض، وإن يكن من المستبعد أن ترتفع حصتها من خفض الغازات إلى أكثر من 17 في المئة عن مستويات 2005 بحلول سنة 2020، وهي النسبة التي تبناها مجلس النواب. ودافع عن موقف إدارته الذي لا يزال ناشطون بيئيون يعتبرونه غير كاف. وقال إنه قبل سنة، "كان لدينا موقف أن تلك المسألة (الاحتباس الحراري) لم تكن أساسية ولا حيوية"، في إشارة إلى موقف الإدارة الجمهورية السابقة. وفي حديث الى قناة "تي في 5 موند" واذاعة فرنسا الدولية، تحدث الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة بان كي-مون عن نيته تأليف مجموعة خبراء "رفيعة المستوى بعيد (توقيع) اتفاق كوبنهاغن". وقال ان قدرة تلك المجموعة على اتخاذ قرارات في شأن عقوبات، "أمر نبحث فيه"، خصوصاً أنها ستضم العديد من "الرؤساء والخبراء والجامعيين والمسؤولين الاقتصاديين الذين سيبحثون طريقة المضي في مكافحة الاحتباس الحراري". annahar __________________ If my smoking bothers you. Don't breathe.

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Sheriff Ice info@sync.com.lb Last Online: 11-29-2020 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,827 Thanks: 1,348 Thanked 2,391 Times in 1,306 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 16 Times in 15 Posts	This Summit will be similar to Kyoto Summit and Rio Di Jinero Summit that were Held in the 1990's The US will refuse the reform in order to protect their commerce and keep using the same policy of destruction all over the world. __________________ http://www.gamync.com Lebanese Produced Mobiles Games by http://www.sync.com.lb

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RUSSIAN Registered Member Last Online: 10-08-2023 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 569 Thanks: 838 Thanked 232 Times in 174 Posts Groans: 24 Groaned at 16 Times in 13 Posts	the danger of "global warming" is just another imperialist fake. They want to stop some countries like china and India in the cultivation of their industry. So don't trust them climate was changing in the past- it is a normal process. Read this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ture-data.html Last edited by RUSSIAN; 12-07-2009 at 10:16 AM.

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mr_j Community Moderator Last Online: 07-31-2023 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,520 Thanks: 3,023 Thanked 2,076 Times in 1,156 Posts Groans: 7 Groaned at 34 Times in 27 Posts	it's not fake, it is very real and very dangerous and scary but, we don't need a summit for nations to se results it's all because of the united states, the united states is the biggest producer of fuel, many people don't know that, you think saudi arabia is the biggest producer of fuel anyway no, the US is the biggest producer of fuel and at the same time the biggest importer think about i this way, the US consumes more fuel than the rest of the world combined X 2 either they should cut down or there will be no results enno what should the other nation do? what can we do? if they really want to solve the situation they could take alot of good steps forward, like sell countries nuclear fuel and give them loans to build water/wind powered electricity they could allow iran to use nuclear power to generate electricity they could motivate governments to improve the transportation system, organise buses and build train stations etc... bas so far they don't seem very concerned with this PS: planting trees does not help, our problem is that we took carbon that was underground(the fuel we dug out) and we burned it on the outside, even if we cover earth with plants it will not be enough to compensate for that __________________ "Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. " -Mark Twain

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