A letter to samir

[getryne]

although i've a lot of comments on this maqal, bss it's great, hadi showed how samir j3j3 betrayed " the christian community" he used 2 say that he fighted 4. well here my comments. 1st of all, i think that ja3ja3 is just the same as bachir jmayyil, (yi3ni wajhan l 3omla wa7ida), the differnece is that bachir died and his radical thoughts and goals died with him, while samir ja3ja3 still lives and so does his thoughts. my second point is that bachir jmayyil wasnt killed by syrians, bachir jmayyil was killed by a christian marouni " souri qawmi ijtima3i" called 7abib chartouni and he's lebanese. syrian social nationalists r proud of that, and me 2 ...................

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by getryne

although i've a lot of comments on this maqal, bss it's great, hadi showed how samir j3j3 betrayed " the christian community" he used 2 say that he fighted 4. well here my comments. 1st of all, i think that ja3ja3 is just the same as bachir jmayyil, (yi3ni wajhan l 3omla wa7ida), the differnece is that bachir died and his radical thoughts and goals died with him, while samir ja3ja3 still lives and so does his thoughts. my second point is that bachir jmayyil wasnt killed by syrians, bachir jmayyil was killed by a christian marouni " souri qawmi ijtima3i" called 7abib chartouni and he's lebanese. syrian social nationalists r proud of that, and me 2 ...................

Everyone is free to express what they want.
Whether we accept or not killing people is not the right solution.
I am not defending bachir gmayel but this person represented a big part of lebanese and he was a dream for some which is not the case with samir geagea.
whoever who killed bachir gmayel the president of lebanon in that era has to be taken to the justice.
same for who killed tony beik and his family and dany chamoun and his family.
everyone who made such crimes has to be taken to the justice with no exeptions.
it's matter of principales.

[getryne]

well xcoder wat u talked about is right,and reasonable.i wish every1 in this country believe and act as u said. maybe am defending something from the past which may be meanless, and i believe it is, bss i wanna show u my point of view only, 1st of all, killing people isnt the right solution, do u know y? bcz in this country, heroes become heroes only when they die, 4 example: rafiq 7ariri, who was just an ordinary lebanese prime minister, i didnt hate that man, bt everyone including me had a lot of comments on his acts, anyways rafi2 7ariri died, and at that moment he became a hero....... same 4 many others... well 7abib chartouni killed bachir, bt bachir wasnt a lebanese president, history remembers well how bachir reached presidency over israeli tanks, i think thats obvious. so i donno if he's really a legal president " the same 4 emil la77oud" , ill go with wat u said to the end, wat about walid junblat, samir ja3ja3, elie 7bay2a, karim bakradoni(and many others), these r also (saffa7in min lobnan), y should 7abib chartouni be a criminal and murderer in the view of lebanese justice, well the others will be leaders, saints, and bakawet......... " AL WAYL L 2OMMA TAJ3AL MIN SAFFA7IYA ABTAL YONADO B 2ISM L 7ORRIYYA" thx god we still have some honest people here "general and sayyid"

[Tawa]

It's Great!!! Great!!! and more then Great!!! This Guy is talking about everything, and he's right 100%...

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by getryne

although i've a lot of comments on this maqal, bss it's great, hadi showed how samir j3j3 betrayed " the christian community" he used 2 say that he fighted 4. well here my comments. 1st of all, i think that ja3ja3 is just the same as bachir jmayyil, (yi3ni wajhan l 3omla wa7ida), the differnece is that bachir died and his radical thoughts and goals died with him, while samir ja3ja3 still lives and so does his thoughts. my second point is that bachir jmayyil wasnt killed by syrians, bachir jmayyil was killed by a christian marouni " souri qawmi ijtima3i" called 7abib chartouni and he's lebanese. syrian social nationalists r proud of that, and me 2 ...................

If your proud of 7abib L chartouni, I just want to tell you that I am really proud of Bachir coz he cleaned all the traitors (you call heros) from my dear Lebanon.

[Tawa]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

If your proud of 7abib L chartouni, I just want to tell you that I am really proud of Bachir coz he cleaned all the traitors (you call heros) from my dear Lebanon.

yes man, we are all proud of Bachir, but...:

Samir Ja3ja3, is not Bachir Jmayil you should know that clearly... that's your problem you LFers...

[getryne]

i cant understand wats the difference between samir and bachir, samir was just the man under the order of bachir, samir made "Ehden massacre" but the decision was takin by bachir, i dont care 4 that anyways!!!!! cze i dont think dany cham3oun, tony franjiye', or rachid karame' were that heroes,they were good people, but am sorry 4 wat happened 2 them just bcz of bachir and his LF gang, other than that wat about the lovely realtion between bachir and his israeli allies at that time( well the syrians were his allies before that), i think that terminating bachir was the right decision,well as i know the lebanese law says that israel is an enemy, and dealing with the enemy is by law "khiyana 3ozma", lebanese law(if it was found at that time) should have punished bachir,so 7abib chartouni dealed with that.... btw and 4 ur own knowledge( the decision of terminating bachir was took by 7abib chartouni and nabil l3alam only, man ken fi "amr 7izbi"................. the lebanese law deals with chartouni as a criminal( he ran away from roumye' jail through a special military mission leaded by as3ad 7ardan who is now in the parliament),well if chartouni must be punished, it's ok then get all the other criminals and let's punish them together( saint ja3ja3 will be the 1st 4 sure)

[Tawa]

getryine you're right man but I havn't heared before that Bachir Jmayyil gave the order for the massacres...

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by Tawa

yes man, we are all proud of Bachir, but...:

Samir Ja3ja3, is not Bachir Jmayil [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/user/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]you should know that clearly... [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/user/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image002.gif[/IMG]that's your problem you LFers...

First of all I AM NOT AN LFER ALL OF YOU SHOULD PRINT THAT IN YOUR MIND.
Bachir is not = a samir it's far mitl l ard w l amar.

Originally Posted by getryne

i cant understand wats the difference between samir and a massacre" but the decision was takin by bachir, i dont care 4 that anyways!!!!! cze i dont think dany cham3oun, tony franjiye', or rachid karame' were that heroes,they were good people, but am sorry 4 wat happened 2 them just bcz of bachir and his LF gang, other than that wat about the lovely realtion between bachir and his israeli allies at that time( well the syrians were his allies before that), i think that terminating bachir was the right decision,well as i know the lebanese law says that israel is an enemy, and dealing with the enemy is by law "khiyana 3ozma", lebanese law(if it was found at that time) should have punished bachir,so 7abib chartouni dealed with that.... btw and 4 ur own knowledge( the decision of terminating bachir was took by 7abib chartouni and nabil l3alam only, man ken fi "amr 7izbi"................. the lebanese law deals with chartouni as a criminal( he ran away from roumye' jail through a special military mission leaded by as3ad 7ardan who is now in the parliament),well if chartouni must be punished, it's ok then get all the other criminals and let's punish them together( saint ja3ja3 will be the 1st 4 sure)

Bass for some info, coz l hay2a you hate everyone under Bachir.
Colonel Michel Aoun was a lottttttt closer to Bachir then Samir Geagea (aktarrrrrrrr bi ktiiirrrrr).
Colonel Michel Aoun was a key planner for Bachir to access power, in fact back then they had 3 plans if my memory is correct (if you want I can scan the file and send it to you) one of them was the one Bachir used, the other was the one General Michel Aoun used (you can also check who was with GMA back then, you will find all the people that planned the plan with him for bachir, they just applied it with modifications).
In fact if you ask an FPMer bya3rif terikho he can surely tell you the exact words
أللبناني الأول٬ فخامة رئيس الجمهورية اللبنانية٬ ٲلقائد٬ شهيد ال١٠٤٥٢ كم٢ ٬ ٲلشيخ بشير بيار جميل.
said about Colonel Michel Aoun.

About 7abib L chartouni, thanks to our goverments and thanks to Amine Gemayel he was never judged, if he was judged, I could arguee with you, but from what I know he received the money and explosive threw Nabil L 3alam and Nabil was not the head of the chain.


I don't know what are your political mouyoul to argue with you the "massacres" and the relation with israel, so if you could please give it to me then it would really help if not I can compare Bachir to everyone of the politicians and we will see who's better.

[El-Meghwar]

guys this thread is not about the history of bachir and his killer habib l chartouni, so if you want to argue about bachir or any other politician u can open another thread .
and since we lost the subject in here,this thread is closed .