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لم يعلموا أنّه مستحيل، فقاموا به. " مارك توين مسيرة العلمانيين نحو المواطنة. نحن مواطنات ومواطنون لبنانيون نريد أن نعيش بكرامة وأن نتمتع بحقوقنا وأن نقوم بواجباتنا بالتساوي مع أي مواطن آخر. أقوياء بالحقوق والحريات العامة والخاصة التي كفلها الدستور اللبناني، نطالب: - بعدم تدخل الدين في شؤون الدولة كما عدم تدخل الدولة في دين المواطن. - بتحرير ممثلي الشعب من ولائهم لزعماء الطوائف وللنظام الطائفي. - بقوانين تحترم حقوق الإنسان والمساواة التامة بين المرأة والرجل. - بقانون مدني للأحوال الشخصية. - بتعزيز التعليم الرسمي من أجل التنشئة على المواطنية. - بضمان مساواة الفرص في الوظائف العامة على أسس الكفاءة. - بسلطة قضائيّة مستقلّة تحمي حقوق المواطن وتغنيه من اللجوء الى مجتمعه العشائري.في ٢٥ نيسان ٢٠١٠، سنسير معاً من اجل "علمانية لبنانية". فلنثبت وجودنا ونعطي وجوهاً لمطالبنا!يُقام التجمع في عين المريسة لتنطلق مسيرتنا الساعة الحادية عشر صباحاً باتجاه مبنى البرلمان. العلم الوحيد الذي سيُرفع خلال المسيرة هو علم لبنان. اللبنانيون في الخارج مدعوون الى التجمع في نفس النها وفي الساعة ١١ صباحاً (توقيت محلّي) امام السفارة او القنصلية اللبنانية الاقرب لهم . ملاحظة هامة: تصدر هذه المبادرة عن حركة مواطنيّة لن تقبل مهما كان أن تكون مصادرة من أي جهة سياسيّة. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait." Mark Twain MARCHE LAÏQUE VERS LA CITOYENNETÉ Nous sommes des citoyennes et citoyens libanais qui souhaitent vivre dignement, jouir pleinement de nos droits et accomplir nos devoirs à égalité avec tout autre citoyen. Forts des droits et des libertés publics et individuels garantis par la Constitution libanaise, nous revendiquons: - la non-intervention de de la religion dans les affaires de l'Etat tout comme la non-intervention de l'Etat dans la religion du citoyen; - la délivrance des représentants du peuple de leur allégeance aux leaders du confessionnalisme religieux; - des lois respectant les droits de l'homme ainsi que l'égalité absolue entre la femme et l'homme; - un code civil libanais pour le statut personnel; - le renforcement de l'enseignement public au service de l'éducation à la citoyenneté; - la garantie de l'égalité des chances face à l'emploi dans le service public sur la base des compétences; - un pouvoir judiciaire indépendant qui protège le droit du citoyen et lui évite de recourir à sa communauté tribale . Le 25 Avril 2010, nous marcherons ensemble pour une "laïcité libanaise". Nous montrerons que nous existons et donnerons un visage à nos revendications. Le rassemblement partira à 11h de Ain El Mraisse en direction du Parlement. Durant la marche, le seul drapeau brandi sera celui du Liban. Les libanais a l'étranger sont appelés a de rassembler le même jour, à 11:00 (heure locale), devant l'ambassade ou le consulat du Liban le plus proche. Important: Ceci est un mouvement citoyen qui refuse toute récupération politique. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "They did not know it was impossible, so they did it." Mark Twain SECULAR WALK TOWARDS CITIZENSHIP We are Lebanese citizens seeking to live in dignity, exercise our rights and duties with equality when dealing with co-citizens. Empowered by rights, public and private liberties granted to us by the Lebanese Constitution, we demand: - non intervention of religious institutions in state affairs as much as the non intervention of the state in citizens' freedom of worship; - independence of people's representatives from any allegiance to religious leaders and the sectarian system; - laws respecting human rights and absolute equality between women and men; - a Lebanese civil code for personal status; - reinforcement of public education to promote citizenship values among coming generations; - securing equal opportunities in employment in the public sector based on qualifications rather than religion, race or gender; - an independent judiciary in charge of protecting citizens' rights in an attempt to circumvent the unhealthy predominant social habit of resorting to the power of kin-groups for backing. On 25 April 2010, we will march for the first time for a "Secular Lebanon". Let us prove our force on the ground and give a face to our demands. The gathering will take place at Ayn El Mrayseh, and will head off to Parliament Square at 11 AM sharp. During the march, the only flag raised will be the Lebanese flag. Lebanese in the Diaspora are invited to gather on the same day, 11.AM their local time, in front of the nearest Lebanese Embassy or Consulate. IMPORTANT: THIS IS AN INITIATIVE BY AN INDEPENDENT CITIZEN MOVEMENT THAT ABSOLUTELY REFUSES TO BE HIJACKED BY POLITICS. ************************************************** *********************************** BLOG FACEBOOK: * Event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?ei...171135&index=1 TWITTER:
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so, what's your opinion on the subject?
I will definetly be there (for fairly obvious reasons )
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I came to the political forum to open a thread about the subject lol.
Of course i will be there; in fact it's a duty for everyone who believes we're living in a zoo and deserve a decent life in a state of real law and real freedom. Lebanese always envy secular states where rights and freedom are preserved and use them as example, yet don't act to change the rotten situation. Whether you think it's possible or not, you'll never know until you try.
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there is a high illiteracy concerning this subject , most of my friends think of it as being an atheist , i try to explain , bas l tes tes
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I invited many people and the only thing i get is "I am Christian", "I am Muslim".
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i support this 100000000% secularism and citizenship are the only hope for this country i will try my best to make it, bas know that i am with you in spirit, and the most important thing is to start to apply this in you everyday life.
Good luck everyone nchallah nousal la ma7al, i have hope in this
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spirit does not do anything regrettably
so if you support the case, we hope to see you there
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اوقات بحس انو البعض بحاجة لدروس ،
يا حبيبي يا من تسمي نفسك علماني ، انت شو مشروعك؟؟ وشو آليتك لتنفيذ هالمشروع؟ هل تملك القوة اللازمة لتنفيذ المشروع؟؟ والحق بلا قوة ، ما بيركب ولا ينفذ!! هالبلد هيك ، طائفي ، والقوى الطائفية هيي اللي حاكمة وح تبقى حاكمة، خلونا نفيق من الاحلام اللي كتير منحلمها من الغاء طائفية سياسية لعلمانية لدولة مدنية،،، مش عنا ومش النا هودي ، وما بتركب بلبنان،،،، الحقيقة صعبة وبتجرح،،، وما حلو نتخبى ورا اصبعنا
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i m against it...... wel ra2is marouneh marouneh marouneh marouneh
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