Wearing veil "7jeib"

[Kain]

Originally Posted by mr_j

no one said that women should not respect themselves by wearing acceptable clothe
and I have seen some clothe that... well if the woman was naked, it would not have gotten to me as much

bas what we are saying, covering the face is it really worth it and will make such a difference?
what I am suggesting is weigh pros and cons

pros: it adds more respect to the girl, ok I won't argue if you say so
it puts a limit on sexual fantasies, mich ktir, enno if she wears decent clothe, that is enough. saying that the hair will give you unpure thoughts, that is exageration, and even if it does do that, there is no harm done, w ma 7adan ra7 yoltoch benet 3al cha3rat
if he says"chou hal cha3rat" that's a compliment

covering her face will not make her equal, if the woman respects herself, she will automaticly command respect from people, regardless of veil or no veil, w the reverse is true, just because 1% of people are filthy, doesn't mean that she should wear a veil just for them

bad sides of veil, the girl might not fit in well in a heterogenous society. in lebanon in universities, it's weird(not just to me, I mean in general, this is basicly my problem) the class room is full of guys and girls just wearing ordinary clothe, then a girl comes in wearing a full muslim uniform, a veil(not the black outfit but something else) and some weird old clothe with long sleeves and really long pants or long dress(it feels more like she's wearing 3 to 4 long dresses on top of one another ) in august!!. now first of all, also no offense, but in a class with 20 girls, and half of them half naked, if she thinks that not wearing the veil is gonna make guys have impure thoughts about her specificly, she'd be flattering herself too much
second, it is a learning facility, guys are already there with the mentality of we want to study not looking for a good time, extra measures are not really necessary.
you'll ask me what she needs to wear iza mich pants and long dress. enno normal, acceptable, if her face is shown, and part of her neck, half sleeves mich kérsé, modern jeans is ok, not too tight, w ma darouré tkoun 3am ted3as 3leh while walking, if it shows 1 cm of the leg kamen ma 7a ysir chi...
hay when it comes to lebanon

in europe or some parts of the US, it's worse when a girl is wearing a veil in class, it sets you apart from everyone
and as I said, the benefits are not that huge, if you can convince me enno the benefits are worth being different than everyone in class maybe I will understand these women's position, maybe I will stop thinking they are too paranoid and that it is ok to talk to her more
bel da7yé it is normal, I am not talking about areas where everyone wears it, the veil basicly is problematic when it is a minority, this is when I start wondering, what is it for?

finally we are getting somewhere...yes you are mostly right and you got my point.

1- ya khaye bi kel basata everyone gets hot w this is no reason la yetzantaro l banet aktar aw y2allelo men e7tishemon ye3tebro Allah 7abeb ykassebon ajer ya khayye wein l meshekle?

2- if by impure thoughts you mean sexual thoughts then no...they probably won't because they'll be too busy looking at the girl lli mbayen dahra eddemo than imagining what the veiled girl's body MIGHT look like

if by impure thoughts you mean: lek hal habla lek...yroo7 60 3omro la yerja3 shou l benet t7ajjabit kermel sawed 3yoono aw kermel hiye me2ten3a bel 7jeb?

I don't understand what the problem is. A girl wearing the veil is just like any other girl bas me7teshme aktar. She will talk to you and she will not bite

You are already good friends with black_ice...she is a very religious girl who has been wearing the veil for some time now...shou khtalaf ma3a lal benet???

[Sheriff Ice]

The problem is not in the woman body it is in the man's brain.

Whether the woman is naked or wearing a veil, when a man has sexual intention toward a female nothing can stop him.

Thanks.

[Neoxter]

WTF is this new fashion of viels, woman now looks like one of those karacalla's old dancers!! like tiny bodies with big creatures on their heads .. do you guys/girls like these types of viels ???

[SysTaMatIcS]

to change the normal model to newer ones , they look very stupid in them , as if they were aliens

[mr_j]

do you guys/girls like these types of viels ???

I find them to be very sexy

the veil is a social/religious tradition thingy, there is no logic behind it

evidence: take any teenage girl(above 15) and try to reason with her and convince her that there are benefits to wearing a veil, you won't be able to and proof to that, only muslims wear veils, if there was real benefit to wearing a veil, it would not be restricted to muslims only, you would have seen random atheist/christian europeans walking around in it


edit:

The problem is not in the woman body it is in the man's brain.

Whether the woman is naked or wearing a veil, when a man has sexual intention toward a female nothing can stop him.

Thanks.

nothing is supposed to stop him why do you want to stop him? what is the harm? we are humans, and like all species of animals we are built to have these thoughts, and they are harmless

also a reminder, I am not "against" the veil, everyone has the right to dress as they like, I don't care... I am just giving my opinion.