So what's up with the Dinosaurs? [religious debate]

[7anzala]

Originally Posted by Jean

Most probably the animals on the ship had multiple orgies which resulted in new types of animals.

hehe mne7a hay , no what i meant is that the animals after rebirthing each went to a side of earth, and the atmosphere and nature of that side changed the animal into another type. ino adam was one color and eve was one color and one type, one blood type and till now many changes there is. ino example is the blood type that science said that the type of living and eating changed the blood type of each nation. the same is the animalsand threats and food and atmosphere and and and many factors, changed the species and transformed him into new one

[mr_j]

Originally Posted by 7anzala

hehe mne7a hay , no what i meant is that the animals after rebirthing each went to a side of earth, and the atmosphere and nature of that side changed the animal into another type. ino adam was one color and eve was one color and one type, one blood type and till now many changes there is. ino example is the blood type that science said that the type of living and eating changed the blood type of each nation. the same is the animalsand threats and food and atmosphere and and and many factors, changed the species and transformed him into new one

yes that is evolution
but THAT takes millions of years
what the story is suggesting is that it happened in merely a few thousand years

[7anzala]

Originally Posted by 7anzala

But dont forget that human when created they were in heaven not in earth. when they ate that fruit God sent them to earth (Adam and eve). so we exactly doent know how much they stayed in heaven or when they went earth.

dinasour were created on earth while Man was created in heaven...ya3ne there is a time interval between earth creation (the dinasor creation) and when man was sent to earth. ba3den between Noah and adam there is about 4 to 5 lineage. and Noah lived for 1000 year before building that ship so we are talking about 5 to 10 thousand of years.

and may be they were killed before Noah's fload, becoz the story says that they ate plants when the fload ended. and science says that first people were meet eater and cant tolerate plant eating ya3ne the era of hunting animals and living on there flesh was ended. and another prove is that when Noah is able to build a ship....people can build houses and they were not cave residenced

[Sheriff Ice]

u ignored an important point, that 2000/3000 years ago, earth was considered flat and only covering the Mediterranean Basin, so when the bible talks about Noah, as a logic human wrote it, and the human knowledge 3000 years ago wasn't enough to know that the earth is rounded and it has 5 continent, on each continent lives thousands of different species including humans from different colors and races.
so most probably Noah flood happened in the middle east so if we want to apply it will be applicable, as it seems there were no dinosaurs living in the middle east donno if i am right but this is how i see it.
when analyzing something like this everything should be taken in consideration from social to anthropological to environmental, not only just seeing it from the perspective of destroying what is written 3000 years ago

[mr_j]

while God was busy flooding the earth, the Egyptians were building the pyramid of Giza
and the Stonehenge was being built in the uk
it didn't happen just...forget it, move on
I have never come across a scientific reference that says there was a great flood in the middle east 5000 years ago, and no science is not out to get you (I actually heard that argument before)

[7anzala]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice

u ignored an important point, that 2000/3000 years ago, earth was considered flat and only covering the Mediterranean Basin, so when the bible talks about Noah, as a logic human wrote it, and the human knowledge 3000 years ago wasn't enough to know that the earth is rounded and it has 5 continent, on each continent lives thousands of different species including humans from different colors and races.
so most probably Noah flood happened in the middle east so if we want to apply it will be applicable, as it seems there were no dinosaurs living in the middle east donno if i am right but this is how i see it.
when analyzing something like this everything should be taken in consideration from social to anthropological to environmental, not only just seeing it from the perspective of destroying what is written 3000 years ago

the flood started in babylion (Iraq) and parts of the ships were found in turkey, Greece, rome.... so i dont think that the float is in middle east only. ino at least nothing proves so. water covered all the earth (story says that no one except who are in the ship will survive) and somehow the level of water decreased and lan appeared.

while God was busy flooding the earth, the Egyptians were building the pyramid of Giza

in the time of Noah egyptians were not even a semens

so the time of floading in not the time of pyramids. there were a lot of time between them

[mr_j]

the construction on that pyramid started around the year 2600 BC
that is 400 years after 3000 BC (iza elna the flood took place then, although religion suggests adam was kicked out of heaven then) anyway for the construction of the pyramid to have began or finished at that time, it means that the egyptian civilization was well established, and their architecture and planning was strong enough to afford such project

[7anzala]

if we talking architectire history the flood era represents the era of discovering wood and wood makings. the pyramid came after when they new to make stone from sand and water. hala2 the date u mention doesnt prove ino the pyramids and flooad were at same time. and stories says that the fload lasted for 6 month so in 400 year many civilization has changed. and when we are talking about egypt we are saying that rome empire exist and that was a big civilization and at noah's time the civilization was not so wide

[Tawa]

Suddenly this turned into a debate around whether there was a flood or not.

No one is talking about Dinosaurs anymore...

[7anzala]

look religous history says that:

history started when adam came to earth....there was life before it

Noah born after 1642 years adam came to earth
Noah's fload was 2242 years after adam came to earth(noah was 600 years old) and lasted for 6 month.
noah died after 350 year of fload of age 950
Ibraham came after the fload about 973 years
Moses came after 1150 years from ibraham birth. here we are talking about egyptians and pharoahs(Moses lived in the time of ramsis the second).

ya3ne if we want to count these we are talking about: 2242+973+1150 = 4365 years after adam went to earth

Moses lived for 120 years
Jesus borned 1716 years after Moses is died

which means the BC time is about 4365 + 120 + 1716 = 6201 and if we want to count the lost month we are talking about 6500year is the time interval of BC