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Old 10-07-2011   #11
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no matter how much you hate apple , and even hate this man , you cant ignore that he benefited us , tech lovers ALOT , not only tech lovers but children and other people , he owned PIXAR , the company that integrated computer work with cartoon , and it made toy story movie!! who of us did not watch that movie??


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I didn't think anyone would ask this question.
Apple just like Microsoft, Sun, Google... is a major contributor to technology.
Unless you have another opinion about the importance of technology...



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Stop being stupid and have some respect.
Suddenly all moderators disappear when someone insults me..
Maybe u should avoid my replies if you cant respect me.
And Steve Jobs is not ur friend ...He is dead...Build a bridge and get over it.

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being able to view what he changed is directly proportional to the IQ of the person.
55 person died in Palestine two weeks ago and no one cared..
One person who give 100 million dollar to Israel died and everyone is Isad..
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so what are you trying to say? that either a person should fix the entire world and solve the problems of poverty or he does not deserve respect?

this man changed the world of computers forever. the other millions of people who died in war or poverty did nothing of note...
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Suddenly all moderators disappear when someone insults me..
Maybe u should avoid my replies if you cant respect me.
And Steve Jobs is not ur friend ...He is dead...Build a bridge and get over it.



55 person died in Palestine two weeks ago and no one cared..
One person who give 100 million dollar to Israel died and everyone is Isad..
I don't see a link between Steve Job's death and Palestinian martyrs. And I don't see how the Palestinian cause gives you the right to disrespect a public figure from the technology community.

In addition, if you hate someone, even if it was your enemy, you should at least know when to show some respect. Yo Momma didn't teach you that?
In spite of all their legal battles lately, Samsung CEO sent his sincerest condolences to Jobs' family.
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so what are you trying to say? that either a person should fix the entire world and solve the problems of poverty or he does not deserve respect?

this man changed the world of computers forever. the other millions of people who died in war or poverty did nothing of note..
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and you do not see the flaw in your argument that they were busy being poor and shoved in wars for them to be able to do anything of "importance" ?

Some people get very sensitive whenever their idol figures get a bit of criticism, it's ridiculous. Show some restraint instead of resorting to personal remarks. No one's hating the guy, but you should know that some people in the world like to think of the world in a more ethical way rather than looking at speedy technological developments which are obviously clearly connected with "interest" and "selfishness" regardless of the impact they have. Ofcourse Steve Jobs isn't personally under attack here because he is just another person in the world who shouldn't be expected to spend his time suffering to save the Palestinians or the poor, but the result of his work has a lot to do with the hegemony and the oppression of countries over others and the inconsiderate capitalist movements and most of all is congruous with the inegalitarian structure of the world. People who are disappointed by that often find the end result of such work meaningless until the world becomes a better place to live in which is to me the perfect perspective if I want to consider myself truly a "human".
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their parents were poor, they did nothing, they had them. and these children who survive despite hunger, also produce nothing(stay hungry) but still in fact have children

I've always been puzzled by how can a person who hasn't eaten in a week still be horny enough to have kids

it's just how the world is, survival of the fittest, Charles Darwin explained it well 200 years ago. there will always be hunger(despite what the communists claim) some people are born lucky others are not. saying it outright or being sweet and diplomatic and sensitive about it will not change reality...
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their parents were poor, they did nothing, they had them. and these children who survive despite hunger, also produce nothing(stay hungry) but still in fact have children

I've always been puzzled by how can a person who hasn't eaten in a week still be horny enough to have kids

it's just how the world is, survival of the fittest, Charles Darwin explained it well 200 years ago. there will always be hunger(despite what the communists claim) some people are born lucky others are not. saying it outright or being sweet and diplomatic and sensitive about it will not change reality...
good I can see where you're going at but since you hold such beliefs of people being collateral damage, you should strip yourself of morality. If you get killed, don't call your oppressor "immoral", if you become poor, don't consider your exploiter immoral ....it will be survival of the fittest ...

Anyway surprised to know you promote a world with no value and then you keenly try to value something as Steve Job's work.
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I don't promote a world with no value

I promote a world of honesty. and a world with value, most poor societies are ravaged by crimes and slave trade and selfish leaders and the people who elect them for selfish reasons...

studies and reports have shown that in some parts of famine struck africa for example, the average birth rate is 5.5 children per woman. see I find it realllllyyyyyyy hard to feel pitty for this woman when she says "my children are hungry" well what did you expect? that they would lay gold eggs at he age of 3?

I find there is always something the victim could have done...

edit: open a thread about it and lets argue
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so you think African women are not equal to American people for instance ? genetically ? Because if you think they are, then you do realize Steve Jobs , his wife and his whole family would have also nagged about the same things had he been living in Africa in the same conditions right ? It's a matter of inegalitarian world with unequal development throughout the world. You are right, though, about the fact that unfortunately the "fittest" survive although not due to genetic differences or species differences but superior reasons related to power and control back way far in time. As for opening a new thread, I would at some point maybe, but these issues are interconnected with many others so there would have to be a much broader topic title for it.
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