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Old 03-09-2007   #21
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Default Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

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Actualy he admited preparation for actions in case Hezbollah kidnaped some one.
اهم ما في افادة اولمرت امام لجنة التحقيق الاسرائيلية حول «حرب تموز» ليس حسمه للجدل ‏عندنا في لبنان بأن الحرب كان معداً لها قبل اربعة اشهر من قيامها، وكانت «كلمة السر» في ‏توقيتها مرهونة بأول عملية اختطاف يمكن ان تقع لجنود اسرائيليين من جانب المقاومة. لكي ‏يكون ذلك ذريعة لتنفيذ الخطة. وكان باستطاعة اسرائيل بكل بساطة ان تنتظر تعرض بعض ‏جنودها للخطف على الحدود، ما دام امين عام حزب الله كان قد تحدث على «طاولة الحوار» بأنه ‏سوف يفعل ما بوسعه لتحرير الاسرى بكل الوسائل بما فيها اختطاف جنود وجعلهم رهائن ‏لاجبار اسرائيل على تحرير الاسرى، ولها اكثر من سابقة في تاريخ تحرير الاسرى من ايدي ‏الاسرائيليين عبر مقايضة جنود اسرائيليين مأسورين، بأسرى لبنانيين او فلسطينيين مسجونين في ‏اسرائيل

فاذا قلنا بأن هنالك ما هو اهم من الاعتراف الواضح، بأن العدوان لم يكن ابن ساعته بل ‏كان معداً قبل الاختطاف بأربعة اشهر، فما هو الاهم من هذا الاعتراف؟ الأهم في اعترافات ‏اولمرت هو ان العدوان كان من اجل تنفيذ القرار 1559، الذي يقضي بتجريد حزب الله من ‏السلاح واعتبار المقاومة ميليشيا!‏

he might have said that he prepared for the war 4 months before, just in case there is abduction of some troops, but as we all saw this was just a silly excuse which was used by them and sadly by some lebanese leaders in 14 feb ... since the reaction wasn't equal to the legal action ... so a huge attack like this didn't come from space ... and the declarations of Condoliza and Bush during the war ensure this already planned attack
and why he didn't say that during the early days of war ? why his goals differed every week during the war ?

anyway it's hard to admit the truth and it's harder to convince that someone was wrong ... so no matter what, even if Olmert admitted that he made the war just for the sake of pleasure (that he was drunk when he gave that decision, whatever etc ...), u'll see people who hate Hizbullah defend him and give him excuses and blame the resistance for everything ...

P.S: - i'm not saying that lebanese_a is defending Olmert, i know he is just quotting what he had said

Thank You ...


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Old 03-09-2007   #22
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Default Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

A question to everyone and this question can only be answered by yes or no: did Hezbollah know that Israel was gonna have this reaction before he started YES OR NO coz even nassrallah contradicted himself on this matter.
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Old 03-09-2007   #23
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Exclamation Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

So, if Olmert said this was planned in case of abduction of soldiers, meaning he threw the two soldiers as bait to Hizbullah, so he can have excuse of launching the war prepared in advance not from March but from January 2006, and of course as we see now, he doesn't even have a clue about what happened to these two soldiers since he forgotten about them from the 2nd week of the invasion and till now, their parents are dying to know anything about them , but " La hayata li man tounadi " Mr. Olmert.

The best deniyal for Olmert excuse as he claims that it was all for the two soldiers which we laugh at akid is aslan his deniyal of them existing till now, and all his actions are dealing with this fact.

Second fact is his alternative excuse of (According to Haaretz

" Olmert stated that he had decided in earlier meetings that Israel's goal in an operation would be the implementation of Security Council Resolution 1559, which calls for the deployment of the Lebanese army along the Israeli border and the disarmament of Hezbollah.



In May 2006, Olmert was informed by then-National Security Council head Giora Eiland and former prime minister Ehud Barak that the Lebanese government would agree to implement Resolution 1559 in return for an Israeli withdrawal from Shaba Farms. Olmert thought that it was best to implement the decision through diplomacy, and raised the issue with U.S. President George W. Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and French President Jacques Chirac. "

Was there an agreement between Olmart and the Lebanese gvt? Sure there was and he trapped himself and our traitor gvt in this statement.



اكد الصحافي الاسرائيلي نسيم الوني استعداده لتقديم الوثائق لاية عدالة موثوق بحيادها ‏ليؤكد ما سبق وان نشره في صحيفة «الحقيقة» الالكترونية في الثالث عشر من اب الماضي عن ‏قيام الوزير والنائب مروان حماده بتقديم معلومات استخبارية لاسرائيل عن طريق السفير ‏الاميركي في بيروت جيفري فيلتمان حول وجود الامين العام لحزب الله حسن نصر الله مع مساعديه ‏الامنيين والعسكريين في حي الرويس بالضاحية الجنوبية،


( was the war preapared in case of abduction or for the implementation of the resolution 1559?////////)

Thrid fact is the contraversial confession of Amir Peretz from nearly two months ago on the Isreaili TV: " Whoever thinks that the July war was launched because of the abduction of the two israeilis soldiers is extremely stupid, Israel would never launch a massive attack on Lebanon just for this."

Sayyed Hassan said that he wouldn't abduct the soldiers if he knew that Israel will launch such assault on Lebanon, even though he knows and said that it is only an excuse for them. But in the same time, he revealed by this war that Israel is defeatable, the 14 feb gang have traitors among them, and eventually Israel would have launched the war if not in July , then in Septembre.

Anyway this is my personal opinion, each one can analyze the causes the way it pleases him and he sees it.
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Old 03-09-2007   #24
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Default Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

هذا واظهر استطلاع للرأي نشرته الخميس صحيفة "يديعوت احرونوت" ان 2% فقط من الاسرائيليين لا يزالون يثقون برئيس الوزراء ايهود اولمرت، ويفسر هذا التدني في مستوى شعبية اولمرت، التي لا سابق لها لرئيس حكومة في كيان العدو،الى هزيمته في عدوانه على لبنان في تموز 2006
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Old 03-10-2007   #25
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Default Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

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A question to everyone and this question can only be answered by yes or no: did Hezbollah know that Israel was gonna have this reaction before he started YES OR NO coz even nassrallah contradicted himself on this matter.
No They didn't, don't you remmeber a couple of years ago this happenned before the kidnapping and no war,how come then there was o war???.Anyway what Almert said was that(Not Litrally) if a man stood on the border and waved a flag they where going to start a war. so with or without the 2 soldiers there was going to be a war,They just wanted something anything to do that, but they just wanted a reason and I know that if hezbullah knew this they wouldn't have done it, Because they found out later during the war that the war was planned by Israel and part of the Lebanese Goverment with the help of United states. So what do you think? That if hezbullah didn't do anything the 14 idiots*(Part of them anyway) were going to leave it be??They made a deal with USA+Israel. all throught the war you kept blaming Hezbullah when actually it wasn't hezbullah's fault they where going to start the war anyway with or without the 2 soldiers.
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Exclamation Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

Al Diyar posted that Washington is presuring Olmert not to mention any names in the investigation being held due to July war, and it mentionned also that Lebanese politicians names are being circulated in secret.

The USA knows that it will be the ultimate and final strike for the 14 feb gang if any names are being revealed bu the Israeilies about the help being offered to them to destroy Hizbullah.

But what Washington didn't pay attention to is that Hizbullah has the complete list of the traitors who tried to seel their own country and the blood of their people just to have their ambitions fulfilled via the USA. But really God doesn't forget anything and each one of them will be judged someday.
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Default Re: Olmert admits March preparations for July War

بيريتس يبحث عن إسم للحرب على لبنان








يبحث وزير الدفاع الاسرائيلي عمير بيريتس عن اسم رسمي للحرب على لبنان التي اعتبرت فشلا في ‏اسرائيل، فيما يحثه الرأي العام على الاستقالة بسبب اخفاقات هذا النزاع.‏واعلن الوزير الاسرائيلي في بيان صادر عن مكتبه انه شكل لهذا الغرض لجنة مؤلفة من جنرالي ‏احتياط واستاذ في القانون.‏وكان الجيش اطلق على هذه الحرب اسم «تغيير الوجهة».‏وكلفت اللجنة ايضا تصميم شارة تسمح للعسكريين الذين شاركوا في هذه الحرب وضعها. وقال ‏الوزير المكلف العلاقات مع الكنيست (البرلمان) ياكوف ايديري الذي يرئس اللجنة الوزارية ‏المسؤولة عن المراسم، متحدثا لاذاعة الجيش انه هو ايضا يبحث عن اسم لهذا النزاع وسيعقد ‏اجتماعا للجنته الاثنين لهذا الغرض.‏






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