Why Murr announced the end of the battles? - Page 3

**General** · 07-12-2007

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Originally Posted by xcoder

Last time the minister of defence announced the end of the battles in naher el bared, there have been talking that the Army chief called him during the break asking him why did he made such an announcement and that they still have the old camp.
In addition many talked over the media that the battles are over and the Army will not enter the old camp.
Why did that happen? was there a political solution that the army rejected later?

because he thought that saying that on the day of his interview would make people go in the streets and cheer for him... but his trick didn't work...

Our dear Elias el Murr recieved a phone call during his interview with Marcel Ghanem from the our General Michel Sleiman telling him that this is just the beginning! (From a trusted source)

This is an example of a Lebanese Politician, scoring political goals on behalf of the martyrs... and which martyrs?? the cleanest, the most powerful, the Lebanese Army martyrs... those who died for a real sincere cause!

may their souls rest in peace and may they finish fath el islam so soon

lebanon10452 · 07-12-2007

well that s what i was thinking about i don't have informations but if i want to analyse the situation . at first the palestinian forces said that they will not let fath l islam enter the old camp then they entered the lebanese army take full control of the new camp so maybe the palestinians promised the army that they will control them and then it didn't appear to be possible the sniping continue . when we heard about a palestian force from all parties to enter this battle it seems some sides didn't agree and other sides refused to enter if it s not a united palestinians parties maybe this plan was made before to say that the lebanese army role end on the new camp and the palestinians parties will handle the old camp issue but it didn't happen also . but in both cases that doesn't justify to say that the battles finished so still confusing .

lebanon10452 · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by General Rami

because he thought that saying that on the day of his interview would make people go in the streets and cheer for him... but his trick didn't work...

Our dear Elias el Murr recieved a phone call during his interview with Marcel Ghanem from the our General Michel Sleiman telling him that this is just the beginning! (From a trusted source)

This is an example of a Lebanese Politician, scoring political goals on behalf of the martyrs... and which martyrs?? the cleanest, the most powerful, the Lebanese Army martyrs... those who died for a real sincere cause!

may their souls rest in peace and may they finish fath el islam so soon

scoring points for how many days ?? just two days . if it's really the case then he's silly in the end people are watching and this points he scored for two days it will go with the wind .

**General** · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by lebanon10452

scoring points for how many days ?? just two days . if it's really the case then he's silly in the end people are watching and this points he scored for two days it will go with the wind .

he's just an amateur

don't you think?

BG · 07-13-2007

Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him
At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ?
and where is the motivation to the army?? hayda 1
2, we all know that the civilians were gone from the camp, and just few civilians are the that were backing up the fat7 l islam and co.
3, fat7 l intifada and fat7 abu 3ammar were helping them and its obvious that they are helping them from inside the camp (my friend from Fouhoud told me)
so why do we put RED LINES to the army? instead of motivation and help.

Second part, THE RESISTANCE!
please someone define for me the word "resistance" !!!
isn't the resistance role is to block ANY invasion from ANY side, and to fight ALL enemies? where are HA? those fat7 l islam are raping our lands, killing our army, if HA dont want to fight at least back up the army as an armed militia! ammulition, weapons, etc...
but since the "islamic" resistance can only fight israel we just put red lines, and sit down and watch, is this the resistance?

**General** · 07-13-2007

Try not to drift away from the main subject please

SysTaMatIcS · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by BG

Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him
At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ?

we discussed this 1000s of time

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Originally Posted by BG

2, we all know that the civilians were gone from the camp, and just few civilians are the that were backing up the fat7 l islam and co.

when SAYID hasan said that the camps are a red line , the camp was still full with civilians!

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Originally Posted by BG

fat7 l intifada and fat7 abu 3ammar were helping them and its obvious that they are helping them from inside the camp (my friend from Fouhoud told me)
so why do we put RED LINES to the army? instead of motivation and help.

NO one from these is helping them! ur friend from fohoud is cnn??how he knows??we all know how they suddenly came to the camp and took over it by power! and not a 1 friend told me this , in my ng there more than 50 refugee from there , they all told us how they came , and how they scare them all the time , and make fites with the other organizations in the camp all the time

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Originally Posted by BG

Second part, THE RESISTANCE!
please someone define for me the word "resistance" !!!
isn't the resistance role is to block ANY invasion from ANY side, and to fight ALL enemies? where are HA? those fat7 l islam are raping our lands, killing our army, if HA dont want to fight at least back up the army as an armed militia! ammulition, weapons, etc...
but since the "islamic" resistance can only fight israel we just put red lines, and sit down and watch, is this the resistance?

n we discussed this thing before, u people are funny , i swear to god , if hizbollah from the begining said that he wonna help the army ,dighri 14 march will jump and say dawli de5il dawli , and ull be here discussing that , not to say tht , hizbollah is an invisible resistance , they CANT jst go like that in a car , and join the army , theyr not trained for that! tho 5 hizbollah members can go finish fath il islam , IF they were in their areas...
oh and 1 more thing , fath islam are not invading lebanon , they took a part and now the army is freein it!

**General** · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by BG

Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him
At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ?

because the camp contains unarmed civilians who have nothing to do with fath el islam

koukiazzzz · 07-19-2007

How long has it been since he declared victory ? a month now ?
each day soldiers are dying and the army is still fighting bad?
Is it possible that he was forced to say anything so he said that just to to score a point to this dead gvt. ?
Is it possible that he has no clue on what is happening there?
How could he give false hopes especially to the soldiers and their families whom are very anxious to see an end soon to this massacre..

But then again why wonder we are under the Sanioura Lie steal and kill regime where everything is possible and legitimate.

07-12-2007	#22
lebanon10452 Registered Member Last Online: 12-17-2008 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 88 Times in 82 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles? well that s what i was thinking about i don't have informations but if i want to analyse the situation . at first the palestinian forces said that they will not let fath l islam enter the old camp then they entered the lebanese army take full control of the new camp so maybe the palestinians promised the army that they will control them and then it didn't appear to be possible the sniping continue . when we heard about a palestian force from all parties to enter this battle it seems some sides didn't agree and other sides refused to enter if it s not a united palestinians parties maybe this plan was made before to say that the lebanese army role end on the new camp and the palestinians parties will handle the old camp issue but it didn't happen also . but in both cases that doesn't justify to say that the battles finished so still confusing . __________________ if you love lebanon and you hate me you are my friend if you hate lebanon and you love me you are my enemy lebanese and proud

07-13-2007	#25
BG Registered Member Last Online: 07-15-2010 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 787 Thanks: 38 Thanked 41 Times in 31 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles? Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ? and where is the motivation to the army?? hayda 1 2, we all know that the civilians were gone from the camp, and just few civilians are the that were backing up the fat7 l islam and co. 3, fat7 l intifada and fat7 abu 3ammar were helping them and its obvious that they are helping them from inside the camp (my friend from Fouhoud told me) so why do we put RED LINES to the army? instead of motivation and help. Second part, THE RESISTANCE! please someone define for me the word "resistance" !!! isn't the resistance role is to block ANY invasion from ANY side, and to fight ALL enemies? where are HA? those fat7 l islam are raping our lands, killing our army, if HA dont want to fight at least back up the army as an armed militia! ammulition, weapons, etc... but since the "islamic" resistance can only fight israel we just put red lines, and sit down and watch, is this the resistance?

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07-19-2007	#29
koukiazzzz Registered Member Last Online: 01-16-2008 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 433 Thanks: 63 Thanked 189 Times in 121 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles? How long has it been since he declared victory ? a month now ? each day soldiers are dying and the army is still fighting bad? Is it possible that he was forced to say anything so he said that just to to score a point to this dead gvt. ? Is it possible that he has no clue on what is happening there? How could he give false hopes especially to the soldiers and their families whom are very anxious to see an end soon to this massacre.. But then again why wonder we are under the Sanioura Lie steal and kill regime where everything is possible and legitimate.

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