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Old 10-09-2009   #11
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dont forget training and willpower


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Old 10-09-2009   #12
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1st of all as a start never approach the fat burner and amino acids, and if u have fat,also dont take protein. Start with the first month by making fat burning exercises then after that u can take 1 to 2 buckets of whey of protein only.
But if u want my advice and according to my experience, just eat and sleep well and u will see the results. to eat well means 6 regular meals per day(no chips,acid, choco,......)
anyway if u need more details, message me.

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Old 10-09-2009   #13
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first of all what is your weight and your body fat %.

for the fat burner thing, there is only one safe product called L-carnetine and it's not that effective it's weak. stronger products like thermo ripped have several side effects. i don't recommend taking a fat burner. i am 110KG, i am following a diet and doing cardio training i used to train without diet the only thing that improved was my stamina bt my wieght stayed the same till i started a diet parallel to the training, i've started my system a month ago (adding the diet) and i've cheated alot (ken fi seker w BBqs w khbar) but now i am 105Kg and dropping.

As for whey proteins and amino acids, if you are fat they wont do you anything, amino acids needs to be taken if your body fat is less than 30~32%. and if you were already fat don't take protein just amino, i am starting amino once my weight is below 100kg. i have a very good trainer and he is a professional (deresa lel mehneh mech men jamei3et el chedd w tedghit ).

so my advice for you is to go to a dietitian first, check your data, if you have high body fat% drop all supplements, start a diet and cardio training.
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Old 10-09-2009   #14
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well ... i'm like 183 cms and something about 92 kgs !!
like 2 years ago i waas faat ... so what should i do ?!
i asked more then 1 person w pro ones ... w aloule eno eza mish 4 a long term ma bet assir !!
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check your body fat % and start a healthy diet, start cardio training for a couple of months then use one cycle of amino acids if your weight dropped below ~88kg
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like i said , NO NEED TO HURRY , chicks will be here in a year like they would be here in 3 months , dont do somethin that youll regret later for the rest of your life , and believe me , regret is one of the worst feelings youd ever feel , when you say i wish i could , but you cant!
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i think those things kill some "cellules" in ur brain, so within time, ma bte2dar tetzakkar ktir osas aw betsir wahad ahbal
ntebih ma tshatshit when u quit training for some time, ur body bi sir metel el mara el nas7a (with all respect to fat women)
thats my opinion

i add, train naturally
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no I don't think proteins and stuff have dangerous side effects
not sure though
I heard testosterone actualy can boost both your muscles and intelligence and there are other stuff athletes use

the real problem is that clean steroids and stuff like that costs alot of money, these have no side effects
the cheap stuff people buy are not so reliable
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I've been working out for about a year and a half... right now I'm in a "not bad" shape... recently I started to take "Mass Gainer"; I need to gain about 5 Kg, and maybe later I'll start with Whey Proteins... last week I read that the body needs daily 1 gram of protein for each 1 pound of body weight (that's about 160 grams of protein daily) ... What I wanted to ask is does this huge amount of protein have any side effects on the body especially on the liver ?

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Not from my experience..

But what u should make sure off is to drink AT LEAST 3 Liters of water.

Enjoy and train hard!
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