Would u? Could u?

[SysTaMatIcS]

who voted iv already had several , will the admins tell us??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by xcoder

My friend, they have been trying to cure gay people since hundred of years, homosexuality is not kind of sickness, the number of homosexual people in every society is high enough to prove that such thing is a reality and pushed the united nations to adopt gay rights among human rights and switched from "sickness" to "rights".

Sickness can be divided into three things:
1. Disease
2. Illness
3. Disorder

Each of these has it's own way of being cured.
With what I described, Homosexuality would fall under disorder.

They were trying to cure homosexuals without knowing the cause of homosexuality, that's why it was impossible. These studies that I mentioned earlier are very new, they are currently the only ones that show the cause of homosexuality, therefor the UN couldn't have had much to go with if they wanted to brand it as a sickness.

Also, I doubt countries who accept Homosexuality will start thinking things over now.

[RAM BÓY™]

hello no
bass we wont 2 know who voted iv already had several??

[Ninoz]

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[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Adam

Sickness can be divided into three things:
1. Disease
2. Illness
3. Disorder

Each of these has it's own way of being cured.
With what I described, Homosexuality would fall under disorder.

They were trying to cure homosexuals without knowing the cause of homosexuality, that's why it was impossible. These studies that I mentioned earlier are very new, they are currently the only ones that show the cause of homosexuality, therefor the UN couldn't have had much to go with if they wanted to brand it as a sickness.

Also, I doubt countries who accept Homosexuality will start thinking things over now.

Teb since you think they found the reasons now and know how to "cure" homosexual people to turn heterosexual then why don't they apply it and withdraw their rights?
Systems are accepting gay rights one after another and someday they will be adopted by all systems.
as everything in this world, things improve on all levels and changing the identification of homosexuality from sickness to rights was not an accident.

[SysTaMatIcS]

George : i love u jim!
jim:i love u george!
* they kiss each other wildly *
* then the scene gets hotter *
then u pass by them , how happy would u?? accept the gays rights??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by xcoder

Teb since you think they found the reasons now and know how to "cure" homosexual people to turn heterosexual then why don't they apply it and withdraw their rights?

I never said that they found a cure, they found the cause of it, which makes research for a cure possible.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Systems are accepting gay rights one after another and someday they will be adopted by all systems.
As everything in this world, things improve on all levels and changing the identification of homosexuality from sickness to rights was not an accident.

We all know how much western countries fear not being politically correct, no one ever speaks against something like this in public, if they do the media will portray them as intolerant racists but whenever there is an anonymous poll about homosexuality you will see that, while not a majority, many are against homosexuality(a rough average of 40%).


One more thing, you keep saying it's not a sickness, why? where is your proof?

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Adam

I never said that they found a cure, they found the cause of it, which makes research for a cure possible.

They found out that superstitious thinking, the basis for all religions, is associated with a certain spot in a brain that evolved for many reasons...Once they decide to "cure" ppl from the ailment called religion, I am with "curing" homosexuals...

People just refuse to think actually...If they found spots in the brain associated with homosexuals or hormone variations or ma ba3ref shoo l ossa le kel yoom byetla3o feya, that doesn't mean it is an illness ( same thing goes for religion, i was just being sarcastic)...There is a spot in the brain that is stimulated and associated with every detail of our physiology and emotion including homosexuality and religion...but the thing is that ur religion or whatever persuasion u come from, force u to intrude into other ppl's life...U r under a divine obligation to invade bedrooms and look who is touching who and where they are touching each other...Grow up and next time ur priest/sheikh/rabbi tells u that homosexuality is an abomination and homosexuals should die or be cured or whatever, refer him to the nearest psychologist..he(cuz there is no she in religious hierarchy ) needs counseling since his level of thinking is way too simple for his age...

Long ago there was a god, he created everything perfect, except for men who he created with an extra foreskin and ordered jews and muslims to cut it for their little children...the same perfect god then created a billion of hereditary diseases...he then created an urge in some individuals to have sex with ppl of the same sex and ordered some of his representatives on earth to kill them with the use of fire/stones/throwing from a high place which differs between a representative and another...interestingly enough, the same god said that after they die this horrible death they still have to suffer for eternity because he likes to have a good laugh at toasted humans...

If u are gonna argue from a religious point of view against homosexuality u might as well bring up again the verse in the Old testemant that explains how the sun revolves around the earth so lets set the delusions aside and please keep them for yourself and the choir who believe them...

Now for science and logic, if you are gonna argue that homosexuality creates more STD's than straight relationships, statistics won't help you...But lets assume they did, so does every statistic against smoking..If homosexuals are a result of some disorder, then what is the disorder that causes u to smoke defying all statsitics and hazarding ur life? and when will the state decide to outlaw smoking to save its citizens from the deaths and diseases it causes...weak argument against homosexuality from this point of view...

From a political point of view, according to what political tradition do you have right to interfere in a relationship between two consenting adults (aside from theologies)? we get back to religion because only a system that has adopted religion/religions openly won't interfere in such individual liberties....

It is sexual orientation as abousoun and many have explained before...Stop getting overexcited and saying it is a disease because day after day ppl who used to say that are apologizing because no science is backing them up...and when a scientist does say it is an illness, it turns out that he also believes that the woman was the rib of a man and there was a talking snake in heaven bla bla bla...A scientist who spent more time in his church than he did studying what he pretends to know about...Evangelicals gone wild!!!

[SysTaMatIcS]

Burn the heathen ^^

[Adam]

Originally Posted by athegan

They found out that superstitious thinking, the basis for all religions, is associated with a certain spot in a brain that evolved for many reasons...Once they decide to "cure" ppl from the ailment called religion, I am with "curing" homosexuals...

People just refuse to think actually...If they found spots in the brain associated with homosexuals or hormone variations or ma ba3ref shoo l ossa le kel yoom byetla3o feya, that doesn't mean it is an illness ( same thing goes for religion, i was just being sarcastic)...There is a spot in the brain that is stimulated and associated with every detail of our physiology and emotion including homosexuality and religion...but the thing is that ur religion or whatever persuasion u come from, force u to intrude into other ppl's life...U r under a divine obligation to invade bedrooms and look who is touching who and where they are touching each other...Grow up and next time ur priest/sheikh/rabbi tells u that homosexuality is an abomination and homosexuals should die or be cured or whatever, refer him to the nearest psychologist..he(cuz there is no she in religious hierarchy ) needs counseling since his level of thinking is way too simple for his age...

Long ago there was a god, he created everything perfect, except for men who he created with an extra foreskin and ordered jews and muslims to cut it for their little children...the same perfect god then created a billion of hereditary diseases...he then created an urge in some individuals to have sex with ppl of the same sex and ordered some of his representatives on earth to kill them with the use of fire/stones/throwing from a high place which differs between a representative and another...interestingly enough, the same god said that after they die this horrible death they still have to suffer for eternity because he likes to have a good laugh at toasted humans...

If u are gonna argue from a religious point of view against homosexuality u might as well bring up again the verse in the Old testemant that explains how the sun revolves around the earth so lets set the delusions aside and please keep them for yourself and the choir who believe them...

First of all, I was speaking from a scientific point of view.

Originally Posted by athegan

Now for science and logic, if you are gonna argue that homosexuality creates more STD's than straight relationships, statistics won't help you...But lets assume they did, so does every statistic against smoking..If homosexuals are a result of some disorder, then what is the disorder that causes u to smoke defying all statsitics and hazarding ur life? and when will the state decide to outlaw smoking to save its citizens from the deaths and diseases it causes...weak argument against homosexuality from this point of view...

Second of all, I didn't say it created more STD cases that a heterosexual relationship.

Originally Posted by athegan

It is sexual orientation as abousoun and many have explained before...Stop getting overexcited and saying it is a disease because day after day ppl who used to say that are apologizing because no science is backing them up...and when a scientist does say it is an illness, it turns out that he also believes that the woman was the rib of a man and there was a talking snake in heaven bla bla bla...A scientist who spent more time in his church than he did studying what he pretends to know about...Evangelicals gone wild!!!

Third of all, the "Evangelical" scientist that I was talking about was actually a religion hating atheist.
Also, he spent quite a time studying human behavior, a decade or two if I remember right.

Originally Posted by athegan

From a political point of view, according to what political tradition do you have right to interfere in a relationship between two consenting adults (aside from theologies)? we get back to religion because only a system that has adopted religion/religions openly won't interfere in such individual liberties....

Each person has the right to have his say on what kind of society he wants to live in.
Each person votes, then the votes are counted, then who ever the majority turns out to be, it gets its way. That is democracy.
If most of the most Lebanese say they don't want homosexual activity in their country there should be none.

But the thing is that every country has its own taboos. There is always a subject that you just can't talk about in a bad way.
In Lebanon you can't say anything bad about religion, in the US you can't say anything bad about the Jews, in the rest of the west you can't say anything bad about the gay.
You can see this as a problem if you want, I see it as a good way of preserving your traditions. If you don't like the countries taboos go some place else.