Is Religion Useful?

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Kain

Iran arming shiites to kill sunnis ?? That is against islamic law. If you're taking the coran into context then certain ayas descended during times of war. And cannot be applied on times of peace. I want proof Iran is killing sunnis and christians.
As for Saudi Arabia, it is the exact opposite of iran, ideologically speaking.
Wahhabists = Shia are blasphemers and must therefore be killed. ( That is why you can see KSA's role in arming fat7 l islam and other militias in irak)
Khomeyni on the other hand has never written any fatwa to allow the killing of any "non-shiites".

Well I am not sure why they are doing it but I am almost sure that the people they are arming are killing Sunnis and it would be stupid to suggest that they don't know about it.

As proof for khomyni preaching violence, read again how the thing with Salman Rushdie started and how it progressed, I don't want to be repetitious.

[Kain]

That i will do. And i'm telling you that it is against our very ideology and Iran would never arm groups to kill sunnis.
Iran isn't Saudi Arabia.

[Kain]

Info on Salman el Rushdi, click here

Looks to me like he passed straight through apostate to reach much higher levels of hate.

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Kain

Info on Salman el Rushdi, click here

Looks to me like he passed straight through apostate to reach much higher levels of hate.

Yup,he harshly criticizes religions and among them Islam. Still not enough reason to kill him in my opinion. Freedom of speech should be sacred.

[Tawa]

Positive And Negative.

Positive: Without Religions We Would Be Living In The "Forest Rules"

Negative: Religious People Wants Their Religion To Prevale. And This Is The Cause Of Most Of The Wars.

[Kain]

Enough if you ask me. Insulting Jesus and Mohammed?? Christians and Muslims won't like that much. He had it coming lol

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Kain

Enough if you ask me. Insulting Jesus and Mohammed?? Christians and Muslims won't like that much. He had it coming lol

Noam Chomsky, the most cited intellectual alive and simply the smartest person on the planet answers you, "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. "

[Kain]

لا نقبل بالظلم و لا نظلم أحدا
He insults our God and prophet and we're supposed to just let him be?? He insulted our most sacred beliefs. He would have been a fool not to see it coming to him.
If he wants to insult religions he can do it in atheist countries. Not in an islamic one.
What he did was like going to the vatican and slapping the pope or swearing at jesus out loud. I couldn't care less what Noam Chomsky said. He was stating his own opinion.
SULMAN L RUDSHDI, BY INSULTING THE BELIEFS OF THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN HIS OWN COUNTRY AND TURNING THEM INTO A COMEDY HAS CROSSED THE LINES!!!!

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by Kain

لا نقبل بالظلم و لا نظلم أحدا
He insults our God and prophet and we're supposed to just let him be?? He insulted our most sacred beliefs. He would have been a fool not to see it coming to him.
If he wants to insult religions he can do it in atheist countries. Not in an islamic one.
What he did was like going to the vatican and slapping the pope or swearing at jesus out loud. I couldn't care less what Noam Chomsky said. He was stating his own opinion.
SULMAN L RUDSHDI, BY INSULTING THE BELIEFS OF THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN HIS OWN COUNTRY AND TURNING THEM INTO A COMEDY HAS CROSSED THE LINES!!!!

"Insulted" is a really inappropriate word to use. Your "holy" book itself "insults" Jews, Christians and goes way further than just insult for the rest of religions. Learn from better religions than yours. Three monuments of Buddha were destroyed by the Taliban, no reaction went further than condemnation by the Dalai Lama. You have a violent, bloody, intolerant religion and you better admit it if you expect your religion to survive cultural evolution because it need LOTS and LOTS of reform to be consistent with the life of intelligent human beings of this century.

Jesus told his apostles that they should expect to be mocked for their beliefs because those beliefs won't make sense to many people. If you really believe that Islam is leading you to "heaven", and that it is the religion that will survive till the end of times, then why be so protective? Why do muslims want to hide from criticism? Ideas should compete, let them do so without spilling blood...

[Kain]

1-Constructive criticism is well appreciated.
2- We do not make fun of true christianity.
3- Taliban are not muslims. Screw them.
4- And no you need reform my friend. Jesus was right. So were all prophets. The believers ARE mocked for their beliefs as you mock me now. We'll see who has the last laugh
Allah yehdik