Would u? Could u?

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Adam

Each person has the right to have his say on what kind of society he wants to live in.
Each person votes, then the votes are counted, then who ever the majority turns out to be, it gets its way. That is democracy.
If most of the most Lebanese say they don't want homosexual activity in their country there should be none.

lol, the majority can forbid gay rights but they cannot forbid homosexuality. it existed, exist, and will always exist and this community will accept it sooner or later. we all pass by the same point. decades ago women used to be seen inferior to men but things improved and they got their rights of voting and being very effective in their environment other than being for bed and cleaning.

But the thing is that every country has its own taboos. There is always a subject that you just can't talk about in a bad way.
In Lebanon you can't say anything bad about religion, in the US you can't say anything bad about the Jews, in the rest of the west you can't say anything bad about the gay.
You can see this as a problem if you want, I see it as a good way of preserving your traditions. If you don't like the countries taboos go some place else.

lol aya taboo aya traditions man, no one has the right to judge anyone according to his race,religion,believes or sexual orientation. we all born equal and die equal. if those are not being applied in Lebanon "yet" it doesn't mean it's correct and throw it on traditions that 90% are based on religious beliefs.

One more thing, you keep saying it's not a sickness, why? where is your proof?

lol, can you prove the opposite?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by xcoder

lol, the majority can forbid gay rights but they cannot forbid homosexuality.

Goddammit, will you please, for once, start reading my post thoroughly!
I said homosexual activity, they can forbid that.

Originally Posted by xcoder

lol aya taboo aya traditions man, no one has the right to judge anyone according to his race,religion,believes or sexual orientation. we all born equal and die equal. if those are not being applied in Lebanon "yet" it doesn't mean it's correct and throw it on traditions that 90% are based on religious beliefs.

1. One isn't born gay.
2. Just because they are based on religious beliefs doesn't mean they have to be abandoned.

Originally Posted by xcoder

lol, can you prove the opposite?

Read my previous post:

Originally Posted by Adam

Resent studies have shown that the reason some people are attracted to the same sex is because of a halt of development in certain areas in the brain(this happens to most people but not always in the same area of the brain). When you are about 9 or 10 years and your body is starting to develop sexual interest you get a little bit "scared" of the whole thing since you are not on "familiar ground". You start to move away from the opposite sex(boys say "ueeww, girls" and girs go (yukk, boys), if something traumatic happens in your life in that time your a part brain might stopp developing which causes you to stay in that particular area. Which causes different sexual attractions when you grow up.

Now it's your turn to give evidence showing that it's not.

[-t-o-n-y-]

no for sure......but i don't have anything against homosexuals........

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Adam

Goddammit, will you please, for once, start reading my post thoroughly!
I said homosexual activity, they can forbid that.

ew, watch your language dude!
"homosexual activity" is a gay right smarty.

1. One isn't born gay.
2. Just because they are based on religious beliefs doesn't mean they have to be abandoned.

no one said the opposite, don't steal is something in religion still it's something good and right. but in some countries driving cars is a sin for women...
The point is that most of the forbidding rights are based on religious beliefs.

Read my previous post:

i already got my answer

Now it's your turn to give evidence showing that it's not.

homosexuality exists even among animals, now tell me they're psycho lol. anyway refer to the end of my first posts you'll get your answer

[Adam]

Originally Posted by xcoder

ew, watch your language dude!
"homosexual activity" is a gay right smarty.

Yet again, you failed to read the posts properly .
You said: "the majority can forbid gay rights but they cannot forbid homosexuality".
I said: "I said homosexual activity, they can forbid that".

Ergo: We both agree that the majority can forbid "Gay Rights"/"Homosexual activity" but not "homosexuality itself".

Originally Posted by xcoder

no one said the opposite, don't steal is something in religion still it's something good and right. but in some countries driving cars is a sin for women...
The point is that most of the forbidding rights are based on religious beliefs.
i already got my answer

True, but my stand against homosexuality isn't based on my religious beliefs.
Also, whether you like it or not, in a democratic country, the majority decides, it doesn't matter why they are making a choice, be it of religious or personal reasons, they decide.

Originally Posted by xcoder

homosexuality exists even among animals, now tell me they're psycho lol. anyway refer to the end of my first posts you'll get your answer

And some animals pee on each other in order to make their relationship stronger, but we are not animals, are we?

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Adam

Yet again, you failed to read the posts properly .
You said: "the majority can forbid gay rights but they cannot forbid homosexuality".
I said: "I said homosexual activity, they can forbid that".

Ergo: We both agree that the majority can forbid "Gay Rights"/"Homosexual activity" but not "homosexuality itself".

what's the point if you can forbid their rights but do not find a "solution" for it?
besides, you think putting people in jail and torturing them is something that meets with your liberal and freedom beliefs?

True, but my stand against homosexuality isn't based on my religious beliefs.
Also, whether you like it or not, in a democratic country, the majority decides, it doesn't matter why they are making a choice, be it of religious or personal reasons, they decide.

so far they're all (liberal systems) ending up by adopting such rights, trust me we won't be an exception, people who created democracy are way ahead of us and check what do they think about this matter. we have half democracy in lebanon, what democracy is that when it's based on religious basis.

And some animals pee on each other in order to make their relationship stronger, but we are not animals, are we?

Animals do eat, sleep, run, have sex... we have too many things in common, homosexuality is one of them
it's reality just like you have attraction to the opposite sex, those people were born with an attraction to the same sex. it's the problem of this world, everything takes time to happen. the world have seen racism based on religion, race, gender and now homosexuality. they all end up the same way.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by xcoder

what's the point if you can forbid their rights but do not find a "solution" for it?
besides, you think putting people in jail and torturing them is something that meets with your liberal and freedom beliefs?

The solution isn't torture or jail, it's mental help. Beating them up won't change their mind.

Originally Posted by xcoder

so far they're all (liberal systems) ending up by adopting such rights, trust me we won't be an exception, people who created democracy are way ahead of us and check what do they think about this matter. we have half democracy in lebanon, what democracy is that when it's based on religious basis.

If the majority is religious and want it this way, then it's a good democracy.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Animals do eat, sleep, run, have sex... we have too many things in common, homosexuality is one of them
it's reality just like you have attraction to the opposite sex, those people were born with an attraction to the same sex. it's the problem of this world, everything takes time to happen. the world have seen racism based on religion, race, gender and now homosexuality. they all end up the same way.

You still haven't given me any evidence that a human can be born gay...

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Adam

The solution isn't torture or jail, it's mental help. Beating them up won't change their mind.

So, how are you going to prevent them from homosexual activities otherwise?

If the majority is religious and want it this way, then it's a good democracy.

it's something but believe me it's not democracy, when you want to live in a democratic country you learn that all people are equal in dues and rights regardless of their race,beliefs,gender we took these in 11eme it's the main basis of the human rights we signed proudly and being adopted by every democratic country. and so far racism is still at its best in Lebanon seeing the poor Africans working in houses as slaves, religious system which qualify the person according to his religion... the problem in this country is that we talk about freedom but we don't know what does it mean.

You still haven't given me any evidence that a human can be born gay...

I did give an evidence but you simply ignored it.
We have too many things in common with animals we have the same needs to survive and please don't come up with your "peeing" theory lol it's just too weak.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by xcoder

So, how are you going to prevent them from homosexual activities otherwise?

Mental help, I said it in the previous post.
Also, just because you are attracted to something doesn't mean you have to have sex with it. Some people are attracted to animals, is that a society you want to live in, one where people F*ck everything they see when they get horny?

Originally Posted by xcoder

it's something but believe me it's not democracy, when you want to live in a democratic country you learn that all people are equal in dues and rights regardless of their race,beliefs,gender we took these in 11eme it's the main basis of the human rights we signed proudly and being adopted by every democratic country. and so far racism is still at its best in Lebanon seeing the poor Africans working in houses as slaves, religious system which qualify the person according to his religion... the problem in this country is that we talk about freedom but we don't know what does it mean.

No, pure democracy is the government doing what the majority of the people want.

Originally Posted by xcoder

I did give an evidence but you simply ignored it.
We have too many things in common with animals we have the same needs to survive and please don't come up with your "peeing" theory lol it's just too weak.

Ohhh animals, yes do that, compare us humans to those way inferior creatures.

I searched the net for about a half hour, looking for a place proving that animals can fall in love like we do, there is none, I suggest you do the same when trying to make a point.

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Adam

Mental help, I said it in the previous post.
Also, just because you are attracted to something doesn't mean you have to have sex with it. Some people are attracted to animals, is that a society you want to live in, one where people F*ck everything they see when they get horny?

stop drifting the topic away and trying to compare homosexuality to animals peeing on each others and now people having sex with animals, increase the value of your posts.

No, pure democracy is the government doing what the majority of the people want.

Yes by the majority of the people that are all equal in dues and rights regardless of their beliefs, race, gender. you're just repeating yourself again and over again just for the sake of saying something.

Ohhh animals, yes do that, compare us humans to those way inferior creatures.

lol your superiority is your problem. you see things as you want not as they are. if you believe that we have nothing in common with animals you got issues with reality.

I searched the net for about a half hour, looking for a place proving that animals can fall in love like we do, there is none, I suggest you do the same when trying to make a point.

Are you trying to prove something? why would i care if animals fall in love or not? i am telling you that we have too many things in common with other creatures. i am not creating anything new. you're just ignoring reality that human have sex and animals have sex, animals eat and humans eat, some animals are gay some humans are gay, some animals are straight some humans are straight. never thought i would reach this level of explaining.
However i m out of this. this discussion lost its value.