Stolen Speeches

[El-Meghwar]

Originally Posted by deAtheganized

I highly doubt that and I won't take it simply because you said it. Are you counting everyone who has an orange sticker on his car or something? I don't know what it is like to be 'part of FPM' but I highly doubt that a high number of Muslims would be real followers of FPM...

He is counting nothing, FPM is now a party and FPMers who joined the party are registered w ma3on bita2at, and when they applied for it there was a question asking about the religion of each member (for the sake of statistics)...
so the rate of non-christians in FPM is a clear number in FPM records, and i don't think that "General" gave you that 25% just for throwing a certain number.

Shoo shoo shoo?? lol eywo l FPM...Now you are strong enough to call your everyone even your allies worthless parties? And call me sectarian now when my views simply represent what your allies believe? Do you think you could have survived in this country if you didn't seek alliance with those you are allied with now? If you think they are all worthless, retreat to your orange house and bark from there forever and lets see where that is going to take you....

1. I am not an FPM member, i am a supporter, so anything i say does not necessarly reflect the view of FPM. and in my opinion every sectarian party in this country is worthless and harming Lebanon.
2. Your views does not represent what my allies believe, i don't have allies, i support a certain political view represented by FPM and i also support HA in fighting and liberating the remained Lebanese occupied lands.
3. I have the right of thinking the way i want, no one can force me of thinking in a certain way, and when talking about alliances or allies, i repeat, please talk in your own name, because certainly i do not trust your political stances, and you only represent yourself. few weeks ago you were criticizing HA more than LFers does, and now you are giving me some "Jumblatism" lessons and advices concerning my allies which you became their official speaker lol...

[majousseh]

Originally Posted by deAtheganized

Shoo shoo shoo?? lol eywo l FPM...Now you are strong enough to call your everyone even your allies worthless parties? And call me sectarian now when my views simply represent what your allies believe? Do you think you could have survived in this country if you didn't seek alliance with those you are allied with now? If you think they are all worthless, retreat to your orange house and bark from there forever and lets see where that is going to take you....

deAthe, you are talking on the name of who ? HA ?
i'm not HA, but i doubt strongly that this is their speech and thoughts..
you left the forum while u were an "athe", used to attack corruption, with hebrew writing above your avatar, and hate HA and SHN.
u return, u talk as HA speaker, defend corruption (majles aljanoub) and attack FPM!!!!! last time i spoke with a HA he said that we r ready to give GMA "our eyes".

i'm not trying to attack ur personal beliefs, but i found it logical that we (as el-meghwar said) doubt ur political stances.

with all my respect friend,

[xcoder]

Shoo shoo shoo?? lol eywo l FPM...Now you are strong enough to call your everyone even your allies worthless parties? And call me sectarian now when my views simply represent what your allies believe? Do you think you could have survived in this country if you didn't seek alliance with those you are allied with now? If you think they are all worthless, retreat to your orange house and bark from there forever and lets see where that is going to take you....

You are a lost soul dude, i highly doubt you even represent yourself.
You are a very confused person who has no clear position about almost anything in life, turning 180 degree in a matter of a month proves this.

I am not gonna answer your low level post that represents no one especially not HA position. What do you know about FPM and HA and what we've been through? you just changed in a month and coming to give us lessons? Go get a life and decide what you really are before discussing a sensitive matter that you highly ignore.

Now go bark out of this "Orange house" and come back when you decide what you really are.

[Sheriff Ice]

FPM is the greatest danger on all Lebanese Parties,

Allied parties or with opposite views,

FPM is walking in a clear toward the Civil state and this what is a big danger to all the other parties.


Dear deAtheganized classifing FPM secular/secterian, depending on the % of religion present in the party isnt a very accurate thing,

What you can do is to prove us that we as FPM, acted once in an passivity toward any of the Lebanese sects.
All our behavior was clear defending all the Lebanese ppl ,
If in the past two years FPM a christian side, bcuz the christians were put on the margin our battle was to bring them back to the lebanese political life,

FPM is for all lebanese, ba3den if you would like to join FPM you will be more than welcomed and you will notice that equality rules, you will be never asked about ur religious views nor critisized bcuz of them, you are free to beleive in the devil, but as much as you beleive in lebanon you are more than welcomed.

The secterian mentality isnt present within our party.

[Sogelec]

i read the debate in this thread, i found many of you cursing deatheganized as jumblat w he has issues w he changed his mind
1st of all, there is a thread named :change ur mind;if u read it, you will find good logical reasons why some1 would change his mind
2nd, FPM & General Aoun once they had the Dialouge with HA, they changed their mind about HA and same did HA, and they had the MOU, Deatheganized Mano Akbar mn GMA or SHN, iza l kbar fehmo 3ala ba3ed, why would u guys curse a human if he understood the truth w chose his way!!!..
where is the problem in deatheganized if he changed his mind about HA? would u like him to stay against HA kermal "ma ykon 3endo issues?", l sabi 2tana3, he has the right to, we should be happier because of that...w he decided what he wants...
This Thread Went way Far than what it should be,
One Last Thing, HA Keber bwjood FPM AS AN ALLY, w FPM Keber b wjood HA 7ado as an ALLY
Ento Daherna, w Ne7na Daherkon
Iza wa7ad msh mestafeed mn l tani, la shu tkoon l MOU...
NO ALLIANCE is based on 1 benefit...
w beyn FPM w HA saret akbar mn Benefit, my Avatar Akbar Dalel, WE LOVE GMA, w i know FPMers who LOVE SHN, low mano el 7ob la hal sha5seyet ma2bool, ma kano n7abo b hal shakel
so bala ma nkaber rass w nshamet fena l a3de2...deatheganized with his posts made this forum richer, after all, u can't all of u deny that he made u think wider to reply to his posts....
I had to say this...Kelmet 7a2 w lazem ten2al...

Thank U all, w I hope kel wa7ad yraje3 Qararato w Enfe3aleto...For the Best of this forum

[SysTaMatIcS]

a non secterian political party in lebanon cannot and will not survive , thats why fpm turned out to be a secterian party with a dream that one day it would be a secular party . if they act and think secular , they would lose popularity , since the brain of the lebanese is used to this .

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Sogelec

i read the debate in this thread, i found many of you cursing deatheganized as jumblat w he has issues w he changed his mind
1st of all, there is a thread named :change ur mind;if u read it, you will find good logical reasons why some1 would change his mind
2nd, FPM & General Aoun once they had the Dialouge with HA, they changed their mind about HA and same did HA, and they had the MOU, Deatheganized Mano Akbar mn GMA or SHN, iza l kbar fehmo 3ala ba3ed, why would u guys curse a human if he understood the truth w chose his way!!!..
where is the problem in deatheganized if he changed his mind about HA? would u like him to stay against HA kermal "ma ykon 3endo issues?", l sabi 2tana3, he has the right to, we should be happier because of that...w he decided what he wants...
This Thread Went way Far than what it should be,
One Last Thing, HA Keber bwjood FPM AS AN ALLY, w FPM Keber b wjood HA 7ado as an ALLY
Ento Daherna, w Ne7na Daherkon
Iza wa7ad msh mestafeed mn l tani, la shu tkoon l MOU...
NO ALLIANCE is based on 1 benefit...
w beyn FPM w HA saret akbar mn Benefit, my Avatar Akbar Dalel, WE LOVE GMA, w i know FPMers who LOVE SHN, low mano el 7ob la hal sha5seyet ma2bool, ma kano n7abo b hal shakel
so bala ma nkaber rass w nshamet fena l a3de2...deatheganized with his posts made this forum richer, after all, u can't all of u deny that he made u think wider to reply to his posts....
I had to say this...Kelmet 7a2 w lazem ten2al...

Thank U all, w I hope kel wa7ad yraje3 Qararato w Enfe3aleto...For the Best of this forum

Why you didn't just reply to the quoted part and had to turn around the whole thing. There's no single way we can accept what the guy said above.
He will come back when he consider about adopting some respect and know how to discuss a matter in a decent way (that will be in a year).
Keep me posted about Hizbullah members opinion about the quoted part since it seems many are in the defense position.

Do you think you could have survived in this country if you didn't seek alliance with those you are allied with now? If you think they are all worthless, retreat to your orange house and bark from there forever and lets see where that is going to take you....

[Kain]

Originally Posted by xcoder

Why you didn't just reply to the quoted part and had to turn around the whole thing. There's no single way we can accept what the guy said above.
He will come back when he consider about adopting some respect and know how to discuss a matter in a decent way (that will be in a year).
Keep me posted about Hizbullah members opinion about the quoted part since it seems many are in the defense position.

He didn't mean to offend you guys. And if he did, i understand it personally since you guys have been attacking him for the past few days for his change in ideas...which you had no right to do.
Regardless of whether i am with what he said or not i DO understand it.
I think members in here have some issues of their own to fix.
If he's convinced of his new ideas you guys had no right to question them in such a personal way or confront him the way you did and going off topic.
If you want to do that...you can open a thread that doesn't hold such a personal stance.

On top of all that you guys:

1- Didn't understand what he said on more than one occasion.

2- Replied based on that misunderstanding and attacked him regarding issues he never said.

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by Kain

He didn't mean to offend you guys. And if he did, i understand it personally since you guys have been attacking him for the past few days for his change in ideas...which you had no right to do.
Regardless of whether i am with what he said or not i DO understand it.
I think members in here have some issues of their own to fix.
If he's convinced of his new ideas you guys had no right to question them in such a personal way or confront him the way you did and going off topic.
If you want to do that...you can open a thread that doesn't hold such a personal stance.

On top of all that you guys:

1- Didn't understand what he said on more than one occasion.

2- Replied based on that misunderstanding and attacked him regarding issues he never said.

Iza hek he didn't mean it, i wonder what he would say if he does.
No body disrespected the guy until he started his low level speech and he received the replies he deserves according to what he said and none of us replied to the content of his word because we wouldn't want to offend HA the way he did to FPM.
Anyway the issue is solved and the guy is out.

Thread closed.