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Old 06-17-2009   #41
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Old 06-17-2009   #42
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who the hell are you to reply to a batrak
1- Moqawem
2- A Lebanese Citizen who is affected by his constant interference in politics.
Or did you forget his famous speech about how religious men should not interfere in politics??
I believe moqawem's quote is enough to demonstrate what el batrak did.

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which is the head of marounist church in lebanon,
Tsharrafna...Ya yelbos metel 7akyeto w ya ye7ke metel lebseto.

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I did not even read your comments as they are worthless comparing to him but instead I will leave you with a video comment that would summarize any reply I might be able to give
Then who the hell are you to reply to him when you haven't even heard what he has to say??
And you dare come to post in the political forum??
And YOU'RE old enough to vote???
No wonder you voted for zahra
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Old 06-17-2009   #43
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هذه المقال من كتابة احد الاصدقاء.
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Old 06-18-2009   #44
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We are not talking about Sfeir as a Religious figure.

The man showed time after the other that he belongs to the Lebanese forces.
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@Jess,
Mouzahara?
3arida to vatican telling them we don't want this person as patriark?
When they will see a large group of people against, they will change him.

The Vatican Never Makes Decisions That Are Against The US Policy. So As Long As Patriarch Sfeir Is On USA's Side, And As Long As He's Living , We're Gonna Have To Net7ammal

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@The others,
Do you remember "7amlet fell"?
Do you remember the 14 February people bashing the president Emil Lahoud?
What was the GMA's opinion?
Didn't he said that we shouldn't bash the president so that we don't weaken the presidency position?
Isn't this a similar case?!
No, This Is Not A Similar Case.
Emil Lahhoud Was The President, And He Was Not Causing Problems Between Christian Parties. They Were Making All The Problems By Themselves.
Patriarch Sfeir Should Be The One Uniting The Christians, Not Watch Them Fight, wMesh Lezim Y7arrid El 3aalam 3ala Ba3doon.
Plus, He's The One Who's Weakening His Position.

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who the hell are you to reply to a batrak which is the head of marounist church in lebanon
Is He Doing His Job Properly?
The Only Thing He's Doing Is Taking Sides, And Causing Problems Between Maronite Parties In Lebanon. Instead Of Trying To Unite The Christians In Lebanon, He's Actually Making Them Fight Each Others.
wBa3den, w2eza Houwe Batrak? Ma Ykoon Allah 7atto 3enna wMesh 3erfin
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I did not even read your comments as they are worthless comparing to him but instead I will leave you with a video comment that would summarize any reply I might be able to give
I Didn't Get It, Is Patriarch Sfeir Now A Symbol Of نضال ?
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about the video posted by zeraw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tB15GV9yfc
i agree 100% with OTV, Michel Aoun deserves a place on this list. it just depends on how you look at things, whether from a future tv/newspaper point of view or from a logical point of view. it's up to you.
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We are not talking about Sfeir as a Religious figure.

The man showed time after the other that he belongs to the Lebanese forces.
He is no longer a religious man ...

To say that the most sacred objective for a religious man is to be neutral and be like a Shepherd but on the contrary, he is taking a side against other fellow Christians.

In the bible it is mentioned that Jesus told the crowd that they either worship god or money and not both .. He had worshiped money that comes to him from certain parties and groups.

Adding, When some Jews, sent by the Pharisees, told Jesus in the Temple that if they should pay tax for the Romans. He replied, by grabbing a coin, and said that what is for Caesar is for Caesar and What for God is for God ..
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who the hell are you to reply to a batrak which is the head of marounist church in lebanon, I did not even read your comments as they are worthless comparing to him but instead I will leave you with a video comment that would summarize any reply I might be able to give
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tB15GV9yfc
what a sectarian and short sighted reply...

who the hell has said that "you won't persist", to come with this video.
and where the hell we have attacked the marounist church?

dude, we have started this thread by saying that it is not against a religion or a symbol, but toward sfeir as a person. So, read before replying
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who the hell are you to reply to a batrak which is the head of marounist church in lebanon, I did not even read your comments as they are worthless comparing to him but instead I will leave you with a video comment that would summarize any reply I might be able to give
And who the hell is "Nassrallah Sfeir" so he can come and give us lessons in patriotism??

You said it: he's the head of the maronite church.
he's not a deputy nor a minister nor a politician, so his political stances express only his personal opinion, he only represents maronites concerning religion and not politics.
every maronite or whatever is represented by a certain political party.

In addition to that no one has the right in using a certain public post in order to spread his own opinions, Sfeir has not any right in giving any public political stance because it's none of his business, he's using his religious post in order to spread his political stances, same thing applies on other religious figures who are not on the head of a political party or practicing politics.
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The Vatican Never Makes Decisions That Are Against The US Policy. So As Long As Patriarch Sfeir Is On USA's Side, And As Long As He's Living , We're Gonna Have To Net7ammal
chou hal 7aker ya 3alam ! 3eb nehgoum 3al batrak we 3eb nehgoum 3al vatican halla2 sar el vatican kamen ma 3ando sod2ier ! I am not a verry religous man but why it isn't allowed to attack the smallest che5 and on the other hand we see people attacking the batrak all the time !?!
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