In Love?! How?!

[Mr.juste]

mr.j ... they mean by selfish eno towards each others. if i love som1 i think abt him b4 then i think abt me... ya3ne i dont feel selfish abt making what i want and forget abt him.
hope u got my idea.

[mr_j]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice

What You are Talking about is not True Love

When there is true love all what i mentioned will apply, believe me i got into this stage.

when you love someone "truly" and she wants to go and be with someone else
although you tell her "if that makes you happy I will be happy for you" and you try to convince yourself of that
be honest, doesn't it make you feel sad and disappointed?

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mr.j ... they mean by selfish eno towards each others. if i love som1 i think abt him b4 then i think abt me... ya3ne i dont feel selfish abt making what i want and forget abt him.
hope u got my idea.

yeah I get the idea, but I am looking deeply into the idea of love. into why I would sacrifice something for someone else, and the answer is that even when it seems I am sacrificing something selflessly to someone, I'm always expecting some kind of return for it

have you never heard the following sentence"after everything I have done, they stab me in the back, 3ayb 3layoun" when someone has recently gotten into a fight with a friend of his ?

back when he was doing them the favor they were telling him"3ayb ya zalamé how will we ever repay you" and he was saying"walaw we are friends"
but after the many favors, if they did something bad to him he will recall these things, if not in public at least in his mind, and he will feel cheated
because while doing these acts, perhaps he did not realise, but he was expecting stuff, he was expecting gratitude, loyalty, more warmth from the other people towards him etc...

there is no action without reason in the universe

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by mr_j

when you love someone "truly" and she wants to go and be with someone else
although you tell her "if that makes you happy I will be happy for you" and you try to convince yourself of that
be honest, doesn't it make you feel sad and disappointed?

At a certain stage you will disappointed it is a human feeling at the end, But if you really love her, and you know that she will be happy more than she is with you, you will even help her to get what she wants

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yeah I get the idea, but I am looking deeply into the idea of love. into why I would sacrifice something for someone else, and the answer is that even when it seems I am sacrificing something selflessly to someone, I'm always expecting some kind of return for it

have you never heard the following sentence"after everything I have done, they stab me in the back, 3ayb 3layoun" when someone has recently gotten into a fight with a friend of his ?

back when he was doing them the favor they were telling him"3ayb ya zalamé how will we ever repay you" and he was saying"walaw we are friends"
but after the many favors, if they did something bad to him he will recall these things, if not in public at least in his mind, and he will feel cheated
because while doing these acts, perhaps he did not realise, but he was expecting stuff, he was expecting gratitude, loyalty, more warmth from the other people towards him etc...

there is no action without reason in the universe

I agree, but always there is exceptions.
When You learn truly how to give for free, when you learn truly how to love, you will never expect something in return.
If you are doing something for people bcuz u really love them, then you are not supposed to be waiting something in return

[Justin]

when u say IN love, not OUT love, ya3ne 3am tghattis 7alak somewhere :P

There's no formula or logic to love. u just feel it in ur heart, ur mind n ur soul. The feelin' is somethin' u cannot describe but can arise at any moment, triggered by a memory, a word or a thought of that special person... The difference btw a crush/infatuation n real love is that a crush is someone u may forget about durin' the course of a day/week/month. Someone u may think of a few moments from time-to-time that u can do fun things with such as dates, dinner n movies. A real love is someone that u cannot live without, someone who is constantly on ur mind, day in n day out. It's someone u can't wait to talk to next. Someone who u can't wait to see for whatever reason!

On the other hand, Sometimes we can start creating this scenario of love in our head. It's fun to feel like u're in love. We sometimes create all of these wonderful thoughts about this person without even knowin' them. It doesn't mean love can't follow after u have really gotten to know the person, their heart, their soul, but it isn't love in the beginnin'. Love grows with time. If a relationship is very new n u think u're in love, ask urself, "What is it about the person that u love?" Sometimes the person is not kind to others; she likes to flirt n was unfaithful to her ex, but still u think, "but, I'm in love". When u get to know n are in love with the person, along with that wonderful "floaty" feelin' u get in the very beginnin', that's when u know it's somethin' u can count on. That "floaty" feelin' is just nature's way of makin' sure we repopulate the planet. Be smart n use ur head for ur heart

[Jess]

When you just sleep to see him/her in you dreams....
When you wake up in the morning smiling bcz ur going to see him/her
When you go online and wait for him/her
When everything remind you of him/her
When he is sitting next to you during work-uni-skewl and everytime you turn around and you look at this person it feels like your seeing him/her for the first time, and that awesome feeling come over you, and you just feel like the luckiest person in the world.
When you are apart your heart aches
When you look at him/her, he/she is the only person you see in the room
When you wake up in the morning, the first thing you think of is him/her
When you have a bad day as soon as you see their face you forget what was wrong and your heart skips a beat when they're around.

and the list goes on

Ouf what a great feeling

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice

At a certain stage you will disappointed it is a human feeling at the end, But if you really love her, and you know that she will be happy more than she is with you, you will even help her to get what she wants



I agree, but always there is exceptions.
When You learn truly how to give for free, when you learn truly how to love, you will never expect something in return.
If you are doing something for people bcuz u really love them, then you are not supposed to be waiting something in return

I agree with mr_j on this one. Nothing is free.
When you love someone you will do anything to make them happy.
Why? Because it make you happy.
If it didn't then you wouldn't care less about pleasing the one you love.

You make them happy (give) + They make you happy (receive) = Love (trade).

This is something that everyone eventually realizes but they never really admit it to themselves (sometimes, me included), instead they choose to believe the "lie" called love instead of the truth.


Have you ever asked yourselves why we feel? Why we love, hate, fear, cry and laugh? Why we feel pain and pleasure?
It's because we are too stupid to be without emotions.
Think about it.
If we didn't feel pain then we would stand on fire and get burned.
If we didn't feel pleasure, then things like sex and food would be uninteresting. We wouldn't have sex which would eventually lead us to extinction. We wouldn't eat as often and if we didn't feel hunger then we'd starve.
If we didn't hate and fear, then we wouldn't stay away from those who harm us.

And love is just another one of those feelings, love gets us closer to each other.
You love your partner and your partner loves you: When you're in love you will stay together, and have a kid, and one of you will work and the other will stay at home to take care of the kid.
You love your parents and they love you: When your a little kid and can't take care of yourself they'll take care of you. And when they're old and fragile you'll take care of them.

Emotions are a system meant to keep us alive.
The ones that feel good are the ones we get when we do something that benefits us.
The ones that feel bad are the ones we get when we do something that harms us.

Now I'm not saying that love is a bad thing, it clearly has it benefits, but the feeling isn't selfless.

[mr_j]

Originally Posted by Justin

when u say IN love, not OUT love, ya3ne 3am tghattis 7alak somewhere :P

There's no formula or logic to love. u just feel it in ur heart, ur mind n ur soul. The feelin' is somethin' u cannot describe but can arise at any moment, triggered by a memory, a word or a thought of that special person... The difference btw a crush/infatuation n real love is that a crush is someone u may forget about durin' the course of a day/week/month. Someone u may think of a few moments from time-to-time that u can do fun things with such as dates, dinner n movies. A real love is someone that u cannot live without, someone who is constantly on ur mind, day in n day out. It's someone u can't wait to talk to next. Someone who u can't wait to see for whatever reason!

love can be explained by logic at some point
first of all, I don't believe that for each person there is someone created for him or her who is her true love and they should end up together
that's a myth, 2 people have sex, a child comes out, an accident occurs, the child dies... there is no fate or destiny or predestined love for 2 people
to end up together

1)so love is something that is triggered by some action or cause.
usualy physical appearence, the better looking you are, the more people will tend to fall in love with you, that's a fact, now I know when you are in love with someone you don't think about him/her sexualy...(or is it just me, although I did ask other people it's true) still it is their desirable physical appearence that made you feel that way

2)appearence, especialy the first time you meet the person, if that person happenes to be smiling you have a higher risk of falling for her than if she was complaining and angry, and personnaly girls with beautiful smiles are mostly the ones that have me by the throat

3) compatibility, sometimes you start loving someone after having a long interesting conversation with him and "time flew"

so there is a logic and rules at some point
rules are, you never fall in love with someone of your own gender unless you're a homosexual. you all know that but have you ever thought about it and what it means? this means that all love is sexual by instinct and nature, you don't love someone purely for what they are w ma ba3ref chou...

also there is a kind of scientific fact that if your love does not work out, and you get heartbroken or something, in a year or 2 you would be able to get over it and move on, something about chemicals in your brain returning to normal a year later

[Justin]

Alright, I'm having a small problem in here . Basically everyone likes to fall in love or to have someone to love them back. My case is in the contrary: im finding hard to 'love' someone else though some ladies are amazing, great hearts, understandable, fresh soul, etc... I have reached a point where nothing can complete me but MUSIC . Call me crazy or whatever but its very very easy to make anyone fall in love with you and its very very much harder to fall in love with them (which is my case). and i hate that kinda feeling, sometimes i feel empty.

[mr_j]

it happenes
you don't have to be always in love with someone, usualy what you are feeling is the calm before the storm, the next time you fall in love beddak tkasser snenak

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by halhoula

Ha Ha Ha believe me when you are in love you will be the first to know. The symptoms are (well at least for me

- you only think of the person you are in love with
- you feel like the world is all pinkish with little fluffy bunnies
- you cannot stop smiling and you find everything around you happy
- if you are away from your beloved you cannot stop worrying and you become very restless
-you feel like your emotional state has changed (you're either too happy or too sad)
-you spend your day daydreaming about meeting your love and seeing her....
-you are very sure that your life cannot go on without this person

There is much more but these are the worst symptoms.
Hope they help....

Damn it I know what you are talking about

it is a headache.

Im unable to talk