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[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by ibllise

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Tfadal 7adertak w inzal 3al cheri3, w 2oulo la bassil inou ma rakhasit el benzin..
w inou 7a tdalak bil cheri3 la trakhes el benzin..
Do u need a leader to tell u how to do that?
Nzal 7adertak w 2elo la Saad el hariri badi cheel el TVA!
badak leader to do so??
Bass the problem is that ur leader today is not telling u anything, that is why u r sitting..
Kil 3emrak badak 7ada yedefshak 3a chi , min wa2ta ken GMA manfi...
ken yetla3 min france w y2elkon nzalo 3al cheri3 w tzaharo dod souria..
tenzalo 7adretkon (as tayyar ppl) teklo badan atel w tetla3o..
and it keeps going for ever..

ok im just going to reply about this even though it's a bit off topic......anw as for the fuel prices gebran bassil isn't responsible for the high fuel price since there's a fixed 15 000 tax over it and the ministry of finance is responsible w bte3loun the fuel price ....and as said in another thread only the parliament could remove it and FPM already 2tara7 anoun ta ykhafefo l daribe but as usual ma 7ada ttala3 fi.....
anw about the other parts enno in general lebanese people usually need a "za3im" to tell them nzalo tzaharo w talbo bi 72ou2koun and i don't know why since fuel prices...ksarat.....electricity shouldn't be a matter of politics w 7assab kl 7ezeb w medre chou .....

[ibllise]

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y-

ok im just going to reply about this even though it's a bit off topic......anw as for the fuel prices gebran bassil isn't responsible for the high fuel price since there's a fixed 15 000 tax over it and the ministry of finance is responsible w bte3loun the fuel price ....and as said in another thread only the parliament could remove it

but that was not the story when before bassil took over the ministry..
As far as remember FPM where the 1st ones to call for strike about fuel prices..right or i am wrong?

and FPM already 2tara7 anoun ta ykhafefo l daribe but as usual ma 7ada ttala3 fi.....

I am not against any law reducing the price of fuel tank..
But in order to take out the 15000 Lira Tax of fuel u need to get it from somewhere else .Logically speaking..
Thus they replied by increasing TVA to 12%,ppl went nuts..
So 20$ fuel tank, or 12% TVA on anything imported????

Unless they can find a way to get that 15000 from somewhere else..
maybe increase the fixed electricity bill..
dont know...

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by ibllise

but that was not the story when before bassil took over the ministry..

Wrong , it was the same , the only way was throught the parliment in which aoun always wanted to remove the tax in the parliment but if you remember the 14 march mps never made it , making the parliment less than 64 mps , 65 were needed.

[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by ibllise

but that was not the story when before bassil took over the ministry..
As far as remember FPM where the 1st ones to call for strike about fuel prices..right or i am wrong?


I am not against any law reducing the price of fuel tank..
But in order to take out the 15000 Lira Tax of fuel u need to get it from somewhere else .Logically speaking..
Thus they replied by increasing TVA to 12%,ppl went nuts..
So 20$ fuel tank, or 12% TVA on anything imported????

Unless they can find a way to get that 15000 from somewhere else..
maybe increase the fixed electricity bill..
dont know...

1st ur wrong...refer to systa's post ....
2nd they can get them from cigarettes, arguille, alcohol drinks and everything mch mhem w byen3ach bale + cell incomes are getting higher, increase productivity .....bla bla bla ..

[ibllise]

Wrong , it was the same , the only way was throught the parliment in which aoun always wanted to remove the tax in the parliment but if you remember the 14 march mps never made it , making the parliment less than 64 mps , 65 were needed.

but still they wanted ppl to strike...
dont wana go digging old stuff now..
but they called for strikes..
and the strike done by cab drivers ma3roufi min de3mo..

2nd they can get them from cigarettes, arguille, alcohol drinks and everything mch mhem w byen3ach bale + cell incomes are getting higher, increase productivity .....bla bla bla ..

who said that this is acceptable by other ppl?and who said they dont have TVA on?
Who said that they didnt studied these ideas and found out that tax fuel is the only best one! ?

[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by ibllise

who said that this is acceptable by other ppl?and who said they dont have TVA on?
Who said that they didnt studied these ideas and found out that tax fuel is the only best one! ?

acceptable by other people? kl chi mch 7aje darourye it's better to put more taxes on it badel l echya l darourye....
So they should increase the tva especially on cigarettes and stuff related to arguille...
Let them try harder they'll find a way ....and if u really like this price that's ok we'll make a list of people who don't have any problem paying it and they'll keep taking from them much money and those who can't pay this much money they'll reduce the taxes for them ....
and yeah they could put high taxes for people that have lots of money and lower them for poor people ....
anw im not gonna talk about this subject in here anymore since its off-topic....

[ibllise]

So they should increase the tva especially on cigarettes and stuff related to arguille...

why do u wana put tax on stuff only X% of ppl use it??
Fuel everyone does ,this way ur not differentiating between anyone..
this is wrong?
why do i have to pay tax on argili ??i am an excessive smoker !

Let them try harder they'll find a way ....and if u really like this price that's ok we'll make a list of people who don't have any problem paying it and they'll keep taking from them much money and those who can't pay this much money they'll reduce the taxes for them ....

didnt understand this really

and yeah they could put high taxes for people that have lots of money and lower them for poor people ....

tax based on income u mean??

anw im not gonna talk about this subject in here anymore since its off-topic....

as u wish..open the subject somewhere else