is HA THAT strong?

[El-Meghwar]

"The Cheese" answered you on my behalf.
but i will add some points to what she said.

Originally Posted by Bavarian

Same here, I will not point all of what you said in this post.
A wise leader once said, "all of us have a vision toward lebanon, all of us want lebanon to survive, but each one of us is walking in his own way thinking it is the right way"

Each one of us is walking in his own way just because there is no state in Lebanon, everyone has its own state and that's not a secret, and the reason behind it is those leaders whom you call wise, they established this sick system that is destroying our country.
We never had wise leaders in Lebanon, we only got sectarian and feudal lords who stole this country and built their political power for their personal benefit.
The only two wise leaders that Lebanon witnessed since its independence are SHN and GMA.

Excuse me here, flags and slogans "inspired" from other DO mean something
And we all know that Communism wolrd wide is similar in the basics

The communist party is a worldwide party that shares the same ideology with all the other communist parties around the world, but the communist party in Lebanon doesn't interfere in the internal political conflicts in China, everyone has its own country and its own political agenda, they only share the same ideology.

In contrary, Hezbollah in Lebanon isn't related to any other Hezbollah outside Lebanon, they do have a certain ideology and that's their right as long as they are not imposing it by force.

When i am talking about supporting the resistance i am not talking about supporting their ideology in establishing an Islamic state.
Hezbollah has enough power to establish this state in Lebanon, but they don't want it because they are democratic enough to respect the will of the Lebanese people's majority.

If we reached a time where the majority of the Lebanese people wanted to have an Islamic state based on Hezbollah's ideology inspired from the Iranian revolution, then this state will be established in a democratic way.
So having fear from Hezbollah's weapons and linking it to their Islamic ideology doesn't make any sense.

Hezbollah with its current military power can establish this state by force whenever they want to, but they didn't do it when they had the chance(7 may 2008) and they won't do it, because their weapons have only one target which is the Israeli occupation. In addition to that, an Islamic state in Lebanon is an impossible mission because it requires an almost 100% of Muslim population in order to be established, which is impossible to realize in Lebanon.
So to all those who are linking Hezbollah's Islamic ideology to the role of the resistance in Lebanon: rou7o khayyto b gheir hal msalleh.

Few months ago? Give me a break their history, and now you are declaring that Hizbullah history have changed since few months? Or even few years?

I didn't say that Hezbollah's History changed since few months!!
I am telling you that the 1985 manifesto doesn't exist anymore and there is a new manifesto that represents Hezbolllah officially. ma3 l 3elm inno Hezbollah's political stances since 1985 weren't at all related to that old manifesto.

I don't deny that Hizbullah defended, but they only defended their areas which is little away from actual claims.
Since the independence, Millions of incidents happened in Lebanon, and its quite ignorant to say that they are the only one who defended Lebanon.
I don't know you political affiliation, but Aounists will not agree with you, I will not say LFers, just to avoid entering in an endless debate about the LF history.

The difference between people like you and people like us is that you don't consider Lebanon your country, you are only loyal to what you call your area.
While people like us, doesn't have their own areas, Lebanon as a whole is our area, and every corner in Lebanon does represent the whole Lebanon.
The resistance fought Israel in every corner they tried to occupy.
Hezbollah defended Lebanon as a whole because if Israelis were able to penetrate and occupy South Lebanon they would have reached Beirut and your own dear area as well, that's why Hezbollah's resistance was on behalf of every Lebanese citizen and for the sake of our Freedom and Independence.

[Bavarian]

Bit late..
But if this make you happy

You Tube

You Tube

[Kain]

Originally Posted by Bavarian

Bit late..
But if this make you happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7USVPyEaMY&feature=player_embedded

1- Nice video.

2- Maybe my hearing is a little off...i just watched the whole video waiting for the sentence stated in the title ولائي لإيران و ليس للبنان"
But nothing...So just in case i did not hear it i would be more than grateful if you would point out where it was said.

3- This is clearly a creed related lecture. And by creed i do not mean essential shiite creed, but it is a matter of shiite political jurisprudence and continued debate among shiite scholars(just some extra info), but nonetheless, my question will be clear.

What do you know about Wilayat Al Fakih ??? What is it exactly?