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Old 11-27-2011   #11
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same can be said of religion, no?

edit: let me elaborate fared marra. a week from now masses of people will walk in the streets in several parts of the world deliberatly hitting themselves over the head with sharp objects, some may bleed to death, others might be left with permanent brain damage(which will probably be hardly noticeable, I mean how well was the brain working in the first place if it told its owner to hit himself). others will meet in majeles 3aza and cry their hearts out over something that happened a thousand years ago. and that is psychologically normal right? and that's just one example of the weird stuff that happens and are taken as normal. but 2 people of the same gender liking each other is the real menace to society

I don't understand how people think...
first, these are very old "traditions" and, in my opinion, has nothing to do with religion...
2nd, If some people are still doing these traditions, this doesn't make them the right thing to do to express grief. They are forbidden by most nowadays Shi3a figures..
3rd, stick to the topic


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based on what did you decide that it is a mental disorder that can be solved by a psychiatrist? what did you base this medical opinion on? and why do they bother you? they're not passing laws that allow men to beat their wives, they just want to exist, they also don't want anything to do with you
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For people who are saying it's a mental disorder or a social illness bla bla bla I say:

Sorry, but no deal...

Anno he's gay, she's lesbian. So what!? Eza benet ma 7a tonghorim fik w eza chabb yemkin mle2a 7ada a7san mennak!:P Anno sorry but who are you to come and say no about it. It's not your choice. It's theirs. Deal with it!
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If we give those people their rights, imagine what kind of sick-minded pervert society we would have ! Being gay is being deviant from nature, if we allow it, it will spreed everywhere... Humen were born as male and female, like any other living creatures, they meet to have children and make a family, this is the essence of life...
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If we give those people their rights, imagine what kind of sick-minded pervert society we would have ! Being gay is being deviant from nature, if we allow it, it will spreed everywhere... Humen were born as male and female, like any other living creatures, they meet to have children and make a family, this is the essence of life...
again you're assuming stuff, like what is natural and what is not, assuming that it will spread

you're also making it sound like being gay is really really cool and we(the people) just want the excuse to be gay, by saying that if laws were passed it would spread. really? you think straight people will turn gay if the law allows? would you?

you're also making it sound like lebanon would be the first country in the world to have gay marriage laws, when already it exists in all of europe and in the US now, and the society didn't crash, the europeans built the hadron collider and are making a new leap in physics, what did we do lately?

edit: before gay marriage laws in lebanon, I am still waiting for a heterosexual marriage law we don't have one!

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Homosexual behavior in animals refers to the documented evidence of homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior in non-human animals. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting.[20] Homosexual and bisexual behavior are widespread in the animal kingdom: a 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[20][23] Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. The motivations for and implications of these behaviors have yet to be fully understood, since most species have yet to be fully studied.[207] According to Bagemihl, "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity—including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex—than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."[208]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosex...ior_in_animals see, it's natural... it happens, it's not to be "cool"
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It's simple: love the one you want to love and that's it.

It's not a crime to love a person from the same sex.
To me, it's better than killing and raping and other crimes...

It's not very nice to see to some of us, hard to accept bas anno fi ktir echya lwa7ad ma bte3jbo bel dene...Anno shou mna3mil should we live on Marsh!? (I'm okay with it anyway )
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again you're assuming stuff, like what is natural and what is not, assuming that it will spread

you're also making it sound like being gay is really really cool and we(the people) just want the excuse to be gay, by saying that if laws were passed it would spread. really? you think straight people will turn gay if the law allows? would you?
The main problem would be with children and teenagers who will raise in such society, this will have certain effects on them

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you're also making it sound like lebanon would be the first country in the world to have gay marriage laws, when already it exists in all of europe and in the US now, and the society didn't crash, the europeans built the hadron collider and are making a new leap in physics, what did we do lately?
The societies in europe are suffering, mostly elderly, have no value for the family, if you walk the streets, all you can see are old people and foreigners... They might be more successful than us, but allowing gay marriage laws isn't the right way to make our society better...
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The main problem would be with children and teenagers who will raise in such society, this will have certain effects on them
a society that accepts others as being different from them and that it is ok, yes how terrible, we should always have a reason to kill one another every 20 years or it wouldn't be Lebanese traditions

please don't make up facts from nothing and just say them. how do you know it would have certain effects on them? and you want a good number of people in the world to be miserable, to hide in shame and be mocked and hated and persecuted just because you don't know what you will tell your child when the time comes?
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I'm not giving facts, I'm just giving my opinion toward the topic, and this is the way I see it if we accept gays in our society...
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a society that accepts others as being different from them and that it is ok, yes how terrible, we should always have a reason to kill one another every 20 years or it wouldn't be Lebanese traditions

please don't make up facts from nothing and just say them. how do you know it would have certain effects on them? and you want a good number of people in the world to be miserable, to hide in shame and be mocked and hated and persecuted just because you don't know what you will tell your child when the time comes?
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