LF and FPM destiny (started by Patriotic)

[Patriotic]

Originally Posted by Malak

B. As a first,
We have to find the reason that the LF was found.
As a resistance, it was the call of defence, so it was formed by 4 paramillitary forces, Tanzim, GOC, Phalangists and NPL.
But as a political party, we know that Samir Geagea was running to the presidency of the Phalangist party against Georges Saadeh, and at this time the LF was not a party, but after he lost the elections and he made many problems, he was kicked from the party, so he had to create a new political party, so he made the LF as a political party.

Dear Patriotic,

Bass i want to inform you that the Tanzim was not and for 0.00% working with the LF!

I am talking about the 1975 till 1982 period.
Tanzim is a side of the LF, leaded by Bachir Gemayel

[The-V]

Originally Posted by Patriotic

How did Geagea came to the leadership?

Count the number of martyrs that fall for that.


DO YOU WANT AFTER THE DEATH OF SAMIR GEAGEA THAT THE LF WILL STAY DEVIDED UNTILL SOMEONE COME AND MAKE ALL THOSE MASSACRES AND CRIMES IN ORDER TO LEAD THE LF?

Remember Fady Frem and Fouad Abou Nader.

lah ya man , i say that just to say , that there will be anathoe leader aftef geagea , and in that that time lf have wapens

[The-V]

Originally Posted by Patriotic

I think the story is far from the truth, BUT in case it is true, i can assure you that those people are without principles, and much more than idiots.

I will talk about myself, i am against Hizbollah, and all my threads proved that, but i did not became against the General for this reason, and IN CASE i had to go to another party, I cannot go the LF, because there is a huge difference between the principles of the LF and the principles of the FPM. There is NOTHING in common, and in canse there is, it does not belong to any thing related to Hizbollah.

FPM secular ..... LF used to be Christian Extremist
FPM against the federalism ... LF used to be with the federalism

aha nice , the ppl that i have talke abt it , they r " ktir met3asin masi7iyan"
and abt hezbullah , "b2akedlak" if LF become with hizbullah , i will be in no party at all , anda abt FPM against the federalism ... LF used to be with the federalism , i don't know nothing abt that

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by Patriotic

1. When was Michel Aoun under the command of Bachir Gemayel?
When Bachir was on the head of the Lebanese Forces, Michel Aoun - Gabriel or Raad - used to train the LF on the cannons. He was never in the LF, and that means that he did not have the command of anyone outside the Lebanese Army or Presidency.
Meanwhile, Samir Geagea was in the north, which means that there were no relation between Samir and Michel.

He didn't have the command of anything in the LF but he was very close to the LF, if you want we can say he didn't take orders from the LF but lets say his decision where very influenced by the LF command, I never said there was a relation between them.

[Patriotic]

Originally Posted by wa7adcool

aha nice , the ppl that i have talke abt it , they r " ktir met3asin masi7iyan"
and abt hezbullah , "b2akedlak" if LF become with hizbullah , i will be in no party at all , anda abt FPM against the federalism ... LF used to be with the federalism , i don't know nothing abt that

First of all let me tell you that extermist people are not welcomed in the FPM since it is a secular party and not a religious one.

You can be christian, muslim, druze, atheist, or anything in the FPM, but this does not means that you have to think from your religion principles, Lebanon must be your first and last source.

As for the Hizbollah and LF, just go back in history, go back just few months ago, read the newspapers, watch the news, listen to the radios, check the websites, all those media will lead you to one thing:

LF - Hizbollah ALLIANCE in Baabda Aley cazas, LF candidate Edmond Naim, Hizbollah candidate Alli Amar.

Go back one previous week, check the Beirut list, the -close- to the lf Solange Gemayel on the same list with hizbollah candidate who insult Bachir Gemayel live on TV and Solange was clapping.

And what did you do? NOTHING NOTHING AND NOTHING.

[Patriotic]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

He didn't have the command of anything in the LF but he was very close to the LF, if you want we can say he didn't take orders from the LF but lets say his decision where very influenced by the LF command, I never said there was a relation between them.

http://www.vcoderz.com/forum/showpos...89&postcount=3


Umh,

I'll start by both of them, and then talk about each one alone.

GMA and SG where both under BG's command and they where both in the original LF so we can say that both movements emerge from the same base, since both movements come from from the same base that's a 1st division.


So let me tell you that General was in a group formed to help Bachir Gemayel to be the president -before 1982- and this group was leaded some how by Michel Aoun (Gabriel) and Antoine Najm (Neptune) but he did not receive any order from the LF command.

He helped them, for not saying worked in their place in Taal El Zaatar liberation attack.