Liberty Front: Bachir Gemayel LFers Party

[flamenguita]

Source: Al-Akhbar
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انتهت التحضيرات لإطلاق العمل السياسي والتنظيمي لمجموعة "قدامى القوات اللبنانية" في موعد حدد نهائياً في 13 نيسان المقبل. وعلم أن المنسقية العامة القيادية للتجمع ستضم خمسة من القياديين السابقين للقوات، وسيكون المنسق العام في المرحلة الأولى المهندس جو إده الذي قاد المواجهة في زحلة مع القوات السورية في بداية الحرب اللبنانية
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All i know is that these guyz are against the political and military line of Samir Geagea, does anyone has additional info regarding them?//

[Nasa]

The first LFrs are the real who worked wityh the lebanese army in that period and later on support general Aoun and refuse geagea. and now they are comming again to say that LEBANESE FORCES is divided ..
Wonderfull ... History Judges and history comes back

[flamenguita]

I searched to find something related to these old LFers, and i found a summary about the opinion of Joe Eddeh ( one of the founders who battled in Zahle against the Syrians ).

" Tout d'abord je ne cherche aucun rôle politique.Je n'ai à coeur que les jeunes et leur avenir.

2- La plupart contre attaquent en comparant avec Aoun.Or je ne suis pas Aouniste.La question se posait sur le Gouvernement non sur Aoun qui est dans l'opposition.

3- C'est vrai que j'ai conseillé de ne pas inclure un discours de Bachir durant la messe de Zahlé car nous voulions donner un aspect totalement désintéréssé.La messe se faisait au nom des parents des martyrs et toutes les apparences partisanes avaient été interdites.Il; m'est à coeur de conserver dans la mémoire des gens un bon souvenir de l'homme historique que fut Bachir Gemayel et le fait que je me suis mis à l'écart des dissenssions internes faisait partie de ce but.Ce n'est pas à tout moment qu'il faut utiliser les discours de Bachir. Certains même très proches de Bachir les utilisent à mal escient.Quant à Nadim , je le considère comme un fils mais il faudrait qu'il tienne plus compte des conseils des amis de son père.En définitif il peut avoir un grand rôle à jouer ,en plus il est jeune et le jeunes sont dans mon collimateur: POSITIVEMENT.

4- Je ne suis pas Lahoudiste , mais j'ai mon idée sur Lahoud.D'autre part il faudrait que les jeunes ecoutent les discours des anciens grands politiciens comme Camille Chamoun,Raymond Edde, et specialement Pierre Gemayel et Bachir Gemayel: "La presidence est intouchable, l'armee est intouchable et le corps judiciaire est intouchable".ll faut bien respecter les idées des autres.Sinon il vaut mieux ne plus parler.

5- Samir Geagea est un compagnon d'armes et est considéré également ANCIEN FL.Personnellement je n'ai eu aucun probléme personnel avec Samir. D'autre part je l'ai répété cent fois , je respecte au plus haut degré Mme Geagea qui a sacrifié une grande partie de sa jeunesse à lutter pour la libération de son mari.Dans cette optiquetous les moyens sont bons.Toutefois je ne suis pas d'accord avec les alliances politiques actuelles du Hakim et je crois sincèrement que sa situation l' y a obligé.Sauf preuves du contraire.

6- Je regrette de n'avoir pas trop de temps pour ce genre de gymnastique de questions - réponses car il faut bien gagner son pain.

C'est pourquoi je regrette de ne plus pouvoir répondre régulièrement,mais je spécifie de nouveau aux jeunes : JOE EDDE VIT PEUT-ETRE ENCORE DANS LE PASSE.MAIS C'EST LA SEULE ROUTE QUOIQUE DRAMATIQUE QUI ME SOIT ENCORE ECLAIREE. . C'EST A VOUS LES JEUNES, D'ECLAIRER LA NOUVELLE ROUTE ET JE VOUS SUIVRAI AINSI QUE BEAUCOUP D'AUTRES COMME MOI.. PARDONNEZ-MOI SI DANS MES REPONSES L'UN DE VOUS DANS N'IMPORTE LAQUELLE DE SES CONVICTIONS S'EST SENTI ATTAQUE OU MEME DIMINUE. EN DEFINITIF LE LIBAN EST UNE PETITE FAMILLE.SEULS LES PRINCIPES RESTENT INTOUCHABLES A CONDITION QU'ILS SOIENT DEFENDUS PAR DES GENS SINCERES. SANS AUCUN PARTI PRIS

SINCEREMENTJOE"

[SysTaMatIcS]

well i think thats awsome.... the lf will be divided , and a more "NORMAL" current will be born out of the lf.... gr8 new

[Crystal Soul]

it s so good very gd point and in the end sammour will be alone poor jeajea i wish he will return to jail because he deserve all bad things

[lebanese_a]

While I beleive a new party based on LF original Ideas, and following Bachir Gemayel's path should be formed, I don't think a group of old LFers can acheive this for mainly this reason:

They are old!! we need new blood in the political world, and while I respect there past positions (not very familiar with the new ones) I don't think that they have leader qualities, a new leader should "emerge" from the crowds not from the past.

[flamenguita]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

While I beleive a new party based on LF original Ideas, and following Bachir Gemayel's path should be formed, I don't think a group of old LFers can acheive this for mainly this reason:

They are old!! we need new blood in the political world, and while I respect there past positions (not very familiar with the new ones) I don't think that they have leader qualities, a new leader should "emerge" from the crowds not from the past.

Not necessary lebanese_a, i mainly agree that the true ones who followed Sheikh Bachir should form their own party becoz for me there is a huge difference between Sheikh bachir and Geagea, and who better really know what was the real dream of Sheikh Bachi other than the ones who lived with him these principles, and the people who will follow them will trust them becoz they knew him, not someone who didn't know him but heard about his political achievments.

Anyways I hope that this party will begin reforming the true LFers and will attract the young ones who really should follow Sheikh Bachir dream.

[lebanese_a]

Originally Posted by flamenguita

Not necessary lebanese_a, i mainly agree that the true ones who followed Sheikh Bachir should form their own party becoz for me there is a huge difference between Sheikh bachir and Geagea, and who better really know what was the real dream of Sheikh Bachi other than the ones who lived with him these principles, and the people who will follow them will trust them becoz they knew him, not someone who didn't know him but heard about his political achievments.

Anyways I hope that this party will begin reforming the true LFers and will attract the young ones who really should follow Sheikh Bachir dream.

Aoun and Geagea where with Bachir w laykeh kif tol3o!! Parts of a body cannot function without a head, and Bachir was the head.

[El-Meghwar]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

Aoun and Geagea where with Bachir w laykeh kif tol3o!! Parts of a body cannot function without a head, and Bachir was the head.

Aoun was an officer in the Army,he was with Lebanon and not with any person .
Geagea betrayed bachir and who knows maybe he has a hand in his assassination .
Aoun was close to bachir,it's true,but i doubt that geagea with his militia mind can be compared to Bachir or being placed with bachir in the same level .

[Gino]

As much as it seems nice and cool and anti-ja3ja3 and as much as we appreciate the return of true Christian Opposition, the whole concept is outdated, extremely outdated in fact.
We face no armed threat from the Palestinians, nor from the radical sunnis. Our division today is purely political and involves no religious ulterior motives like so many politicians like to make us believe.
This is a very positive step for Lebanon, for one, it gets the LF back on track, like it once was, instead of being a scapegoat for 14feb...