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Old 07-24-2007   #21
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I agree with sarah about this issue, children should be kept away from all this. in such age they should be learning the basics of everything away from all kind of ideologies.
Justin, if your enemy is wrong it doesn't mean you should be the same to be equal those kids have their whole life later to choose what they want and defend their land their own way but believe me this way is not the good one!


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Justin, if your enemy is wrong it doesn't mean you should be the same to be equal those kids have their whole life later to choose what they want and defend their land their own way but believe me this way is not the good one!


I really appreaciate ur point of view but remember... fi families fate bel da2.. eno if u lost someone u love bi ur family as a reason of outsiders (syria, israel, america, iran, france or even england...) dont tell me that u can keep this thing without having any kind of hatred on the responsible ones... I will tell u a real story that happened during the last summer war... there's a guy... he's not a kid, but he is young.. he's 16-17 years old.. huwe ouwatjé lal mott... HE LIVES IN DA7YE w ma hadan bi arrib sawbo w huwe ma bi arrib sob hadan... during that war, he was at his grandma's house... while his whole family was underground bi their homes... the bldg was destroyed.. he lost his mother, father, big brother & baby sister... he has nuth left but his grandmother... u wanna tell me that this guy FOR E.G. can keep this hatred inside of him? hayde ghassa bi kel 7ayeto.. he wanted 2 suicide i swear... then he had some second thoughts & wanted to join Hizbollah & they refused not becuz he is christian w not as a reason of being LFer... they told him.. go build ur future outside & we can support u with money & home.. live ur life... he refused & wanted to suicide... so they accepted him after one week... & after the war... he has nuth but REVENGE in his heart.. I swear that sometimes he comes to cry of the way he saw his parents bodies... how could u want him to live his life if he lost that family...

I just gave u a real life e.g. about an adult, a young person... kif eza ken walad zghir who lost a father, a parent, a sister, a brother, a best friend....
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1st thing , i c NOTHIN wrong in this pic ... more than 50 years and the south is under attack , every single day , they c the horro and the massacres the israelians do , the kids must grow up brave to face any future war , as we know there will be ...

2nd thing al-nahar has proved themselves as a complete propaganda , this pic is probably from the archieve , its very known that " saksakiyi " besides 3adlon , are the only 2 towns in the south , that doesnt have either hizbollah or amal , its mainly ssnp , communists , and iqleem kharoob moqawim ... so mish zabta , picking a little town , nd sayin hizbollah did this in it .... nd lf rabieh , thaqafit il mawt?? kids carryin toy weapons?? (...)
all around the world , kids have toy guns , and military suits , but cuz this is related to hizbollah , the " brothers " find it a problem in here ... SHAME
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I really appreaciate ur point of view but remember... fi families fate bel da2.. eno if u lost someone u love bi ur family as a reason of outsiders (syria, israel, america, iran, france or even england...) dont tell me that u can keep this thing without having any kind of hatred on the responsible ones... I will tell u a real story that happened during the last summer war... there's a guy... he's not a kid, but he is young.. he's 16-17 years old.. huwe ouwatjé lal mott... HE LIVES IN DA7YE w ma hadan bi arrib sawbo w huwe ma bi arrib sob hadan... during that war, he was at his grandma's house... while his whole family was underground bi their homes... the bldg was destroyed.. he lost his mother, father, big brother & baby sister... he has nuth left but his grandmother... u wanna tell me that this guy FOR E.G. can keep this hatred inside of him? hayde ghassa bi kel 7ayeto.. he wanted 2 suicide i swear... then he had some second thoughts & wanted to join Hizbollah & they refused not becuz he is christian w not as a reason of being LFer... they told him.. go build ur future outside & we can support u with money & home.. live ur life... he refused & wanted to suicide... so they accepted him after one week... & after the war... he has nuth but REVENGE in his heart.. I swear that sometimes he comes to cry of the way he saw his parents bodies... how could u want him to live his life if he lost that family...

I just gave u a real life e.g. about an adult, a young person... kif eza ken walad zghir who lost a father, a parent, a sister, a brother, a best friend....
Justin you're dragging the subject away, this is not my point.
I don't ignore that people have hatred toward the israeli especially after the last war but the point is that those kids should live their lives and later on they can choose the way to defend their country
but in such age let them live their lives instead of doing military shows...
children can be raised first of loving the country that can be improved later to have their own way to defend it and work for it.
As for your friend he's not 8 - 9 years old and he's old enough to choose what to do but if the same thing happened to a child of 9 years old you won't send him to fight on the front but find him a house or a place to raise him until he grows up and be an active and producer individual in the Lebanese society and be a part of the rebuilding and the Liberation process.
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Pink how can u say such a thing ! do u really think those little kids knows what ENEMY means ? do u think they now what KILL means ? do u thnk they know what WAR means ? they know nothing ! they just hear what they parents talk ... their parents teach them how to think from the day they're born ... Sorry but this is not allowed ... a kid in a military suit IS NOT ALLOWED !!!!!!!!! Kids are not warriors ! kids are supposed to play n to c life as a playground and not as a war n crime life ... I dont find it cute in anyway ... a kid holding a gun is fun and cute ? i dont think so ! In the states a famous pers took a pic of her daughter at halloween wearing an army suit w it was published w 3emleh 1000 ossa n it ended up eno this pers tol3it on tv n appologized abt the pic ... anyway this is so wrong ... and this should stop ... LET THE KIDS HAVE THEIR LIFE ... let them build their life and let them grow up to be what they want and not what u want ... This is a shame !
KIDS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIVE WARS AND C BLOOD AND ALL THIS STUFF ... SO THE WHOLE IDEA UR DEFENDING IS WRONG ! AND AGAINST THE CHILDRENS RIGHTS !
According to this logic ,which I would agree 100 % if we were in the South of France and not in the South of Lebanon, if a child who lost his whole family in one of Israeli massacres asks where is my family, the answer should be that they went to play with Barbie or that Harry Poter made them disappear.

You are blaming the victims for losing their innocence.
In deed they lost their innocence because they face violence and brutality. To them these weapons is self defense and a proof of their existence.

How do you think any resistence flourishes. It is a simple reaction to oppression. You cany blame the victims for defending themselves.
You can't blame a child who lost all his dear one to ask for vengeance.
this is human nature. Instead of jusging them, put yourlself at their places and shred a tear on their misery.
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This is a social problem guys plz do not make it political!

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I think what koukiazzzz have just said is the most reasonable reply, most are talking as if we are living in switzerland ... the lebanese kids, the palestinians kids, the iraqi kids, ... are being born on the sounds of their family crying, on the sight of their brothers getting killed ... on the image of their home being destroyed ...



ask any small kid in this parade who is you hero, ... most children will answer superman, spiderman, batman .... while these children will answer "el mouqawim" is my hero ... do you think they are getting manipulated ? do you think they are forced to have such belief ?
after all el ensein ebn bi2to ... put them in a different bi2a to have another belief ...

These children are learning now, what most grown up people still ignore or don't want to learn ... they know who's their enemy, they know who's defending them, they know that they can make a difference when they'll grow ...

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When I see the replies here, I start to see the kind of deep s**t we are in!!

Who the hell are you to force the kids to love someone and hate someone??? it's up to the kids to make the connections!!! you just have to teach them right from wrong!!! That's why you tell them the story of Blanche neige w medreh mine, you teach them what's right 3a ad rassone, w you teach them what's wrong 3a ad rassone w when they grow up they make the connection, You raise kids like that you get a band of brainwashed kids ma byoussalo la ma7al b7ayetone, and what does the military uniform have to do with them hatting Israel, uno if his parents died w he didn't wear it ra7 yotla3 bi 7eb Israel??? If Dany Chamoun kids didn't were the army uniform they will end up against dany ya3neh???? leich do they know what they are supporting, all they know is that they are supporting dad! mich aktar!

w Ba3dena if you where in a crazy school w machoukone ma ba3rif kif w 3a2adoukone, why the hell are you doing that to kids now????? do they even know what they are doing??? do you think they will object eza ma 3ajabone???
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pics of kids with rockets, kids that YOU say that they are dying and they dont know why they are dying!
we talked in the past about brainwashing.. this is brainwashing.
kissing iranian hands, and if you dont kiss it, you will enter HELL!

this is the civilisation, this is the dream of "lebanon" i dont know in the future we will say so-called lebanon
bass mesh l 7a2 3layon.. l 7a2 3ala their parents!

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For the last time i repeat this thread is bout a social prob! and not political!

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