is this normal?

[sarah32]

what schools u mean ? makassid schools, el mahdi schools, walla el lycee saint ma barif min school ? if schools are not agreeing on a united history book, how come they'll get to know about everything ?
you are still missing the big point in this issue which is "LEBANON"

i'm talkin about any school where u can find kids from different points of view and from different parties ... so this kid will c the positive points of all parties ...m not talkin abt teaching history coz they teach it wrong anyway..

the problem is what they think, is what they consider the truth ...

Thats the point !

you know when someone dies in a battle, they give his son his suit and his gun... chou bet2addim aw bet2a5ir hal gesture ? it's a symbolism, it's act of respect

who said the first thing elo ma3na aslan ? its not an act of respect i'll say it again a kid with a gun is a bad thing

so when you buy your kid a set of medical games, then your son will be a doctor?
who said that everyone of these kids will become a soldier ? you are having this missconcept ... that every kid in this parade will become a fighter and he will kill or get killed ...
if you read my earlier post you'll know how many college graduates they have from doctors, lawyer, engineers, teachers, etc ... and most of these kids were raised in such a way i guess ...
being mouqawim is not only holding a gun you know ... and this rocket the girl is holding can represent a sthetoscope, a pen, a hammer ...

m not only talkin about moukawama ... i'm talkin in general ... and u raise ur kid 3a shou bedak yeh ykoun ... and btw the medical game is not like the gun game ...

you answered yourself in this part by saying it's about the regime not the country itself ... and children learn this ... our problem is not with people, it's with the regime ... we are hearing this each day
and then you went back to the soldier issue discussed above

no they dont learn this ... ma 3andon l capacite mentale la yefhamo hek eshya ... they are kIDS for god's sake !

blame the toy factories lakan who make machine guns toys ...
and the barbarian thing is what's happening to them, the bloody scenes they got to see ...
2 kids same age, one lived all his years in usa, the other was raised in lebanon are gathered in the same house ... on the sound of a bullet, the first kid wet his pants, the second kid was sleeping ...
i said earlier put them in a different bi2a and let's discuss this issue

i do blame toy factories and i said it b4 and i'll repeat it .. eno its enough eno they're seeing those scenes ... so try 2 cheer them up w tal3ouwon law la se3a men hal jaw ... mech tkoun their games is war !

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by sarah32

i'm talkin about any school where u can find kids from different points of view and from different parties ... so this kid will c the positive points of all parties ...m not talkin abt teaching history coz they teach it wrong anyway..!

the history book is an example on the disagreements schools have ...
i just told you which school you mean ? tell me the name of any school that won't be sided ... i'm not saying there isn't but let's take for example someone living in nabatieh ... will you think, he'll send his sons to beirut to study in lycee social ? i can guarantee you he'll send them to the nearest mahdi school ... and this happens to kids in beirut, to kids in tripoli, ect ...

Originally Posted by sarah32

who said the first thing elo ma3na aslan ? its not an act of respect i'll say it again a kid with a gun is a bad thing

that's a custom that even the lebanese army have ... anyway it's your opinion and you are free with it ...

Originally Posted by sarah32

m not only talkin about moukawama ... i'm talkin in general ... and u raise ur kid 3a shou bedak yeh ykoun ... and btw the medical game is not like the gun game ...

sorry i thought you were talking about moqawame coz you mentioned soldier 3 times in your earlier post ... i guess you meant something else ...
and i really know that a medical game is different from machine gun as it's different from a barby ... what i'm saying that the one who play with medical games not necessary will become a doctor, and those with machines guns won't necessary become soldiers and those playing with barbies won't become princesses or gays (if they were boys )

Originally Posted by sarah32

no they dont learn this ... ma 3andon l capacite mentale la yefhamo hek eshya ... they are kIDS for god's sake !

if they are kids and don't have the mental capacity to understand this, then why you are worried ? and why you are judging them that they'll become soldiers ?!

Originally Posted by sarah32

i do blame toy factories and i said it b4 and i'll repeat it .. eno its enough eno they're seeing those scenes ... so try 2 cheer them up w tal3ouwon law la se3a men hal jaw ... mech tkoun their games is war !

I wish that too, and i wish that their future kids won't hear the sound of bullet in their lifes ever ... bass hal chi mish bi ide wala bi idik

Thank You ...

[sarah32]

I'll give u an example of a school " sagesse asharfieh " "champville" ... where u can find 3alam men kel lebnen ...
and when i say that kids wont get that american is different from american regime ... akid i'm gona still be worried abt their future coz bi ma eno they dont understand they'll go into the general idea yaleh hiyeh "we hate america" or wtv ... and they'll be raised on this wrong thought that will not change when they grow up ...

Anyway i said all i have 2 say ... hope u'll enjoy more kids shows n ruin more kids life ... i know how i'll raise my kids ... n i wont decide what my kids will turn out to be ... coz tout est relatif ya hassan

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by sarah32

I'll give u an example of a school " sagesse asharfieh " "champville" ... where u can find 3alam men kel lebnen

i already told you we have such schools, but can you gurantee this mixing will happen in all lebanon ? i just gave you a simple example above, and for god sake schools nowadays are named according to leaders, maderiss el 7ariri lal 7ariri, maderis el makassid la sleim, maderiss el mahdi lal 7ezeb, 7atta el sagesse, champville, lycee, patriarcal college every single one of them 3inda different political orientation ...

Originally Posted by sarah32

and when i say that kids wont get that american is different from american regime ... akid i'm gona still be worried abt their future coz bi ma eno they dont understand they'll go into the general idea yaleh hiyeh "we hate america" or wtv ... and they'll be raised on this wrong thought that will not change when they grow up ...

maybe they'll have the general idea first, but when they grow they'll know the difference ... i was raised that israel is my enemy, and now i sitll know that israel is my enemy, but now i know the difference between israelians and jews and zionists ... how i learned that ?
eno i don't know why you emphasize on the idea that these kids when they grow up their brains will be blocked and will never change !!!!!

Originally Posted by sarah32

hope u'll enjoy more kids shows n ruin more kids life ...

ruining kids life never enjoy me ... i don't know why you think that way ... but it all comes to the way of how you understand things ... i just gave you several examples and you ignored them ... and if you think that my life is ruined because i was raised that way and have such a belief then i thank my parent for ruining my life

Originally Posted by sarah32

i know how i'll raise my kids ... n i wont decide what my kids will turn out to be ......

good for you

Originally Posted by sarah32

coz tout est relatif ya hassan

exactly and that's what i was saying all day ... it's all relatif ... being in Lebanon is not like being in USA ... kello 7assab el bi2a

Thank You ...

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[lebanese_a]

I still don't get your logic!!!!!!!!!
Uno if a kid is traumatized by the war you make him live it 24/7??? what kind of logic is this!!! uno in normal country if a kid experience a choc he is treated! they don't make him live the choc and stuff related to it 24/7 (and that does not = forgetting the martyrs in any way).
If we wanna follow your logic if a school nurse discovers a kid is beaten at home, she'll start beating him coz what the hell he allready lived it so to treat him we make him live it more!!!!

Seriously I expected some answers here before opening the thread but some people really surprised me! and all I can say is allah yse3id ur kids.

see you in a month!

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

I still don't get your logic!!!!!!!!!
Uno if a kid is traumatized by the war you make him live it 24/7??? what kind of logic is this!!! uno in normal country if a kid experience a choc he is treated! they don't make him live the choc and stuff related to it 24/7 (and that does not = forgetting the martyrs in any way).
If we wanna follow your logic if a school nurse discovers a kid is beaten at home, she'll start beating him coz what the hell he allready lived it so to treat him we make him live it more!!!!

man who said about making a kid living the drama 24/7 ... are you seeing parade each day for 365 days ?!!! ... from where you got this brilliant conclusion ?

eno the logic which i'm not getting is that :
some saw this picture ... knew how these kids are being raised, they draw their future and what they'll become in the future, and even some said they won't have any future ...
All this came by just looking at this picture ... is this the logic ?

Thank You ...

[sarah32]

yeah hassan ... coz those people ur talkin about cant stand seeing a kid with a gun ... it's not showing respect to the dead people but it's making those kids love crime .. and making those kids think about war and about killing other people . A kid shouldnt be thinking about war or about killing some1 ... and a gun = KILLING ... and dont tell me they're living this war ... yeah in fact they are but u try 2 take them out of this jaw ... and ma bet la3bon 7areb ... law once a year !

[No One]

leh akhad hal thread tabi3 infi3ali?
each person bichouf l soura metel ma afkaro btersemlo yeha
kel ensen bi chouf l eshya men menzaro houwe, hayda ma bye3ne eno ma ma3o 7a2 bas ma bye3ne eno ma3o 7a2
l afkar ktire, wel souwar aktar, eza kel soura badna n7alela metel ma na7na badna its a big pb
"O": fine choufa cercle, sun, orange... w others can c it: apple, moon...
each one has its own perception...
donno if u get my pt bi tari2 mnel torou2
Merci

[sarah32]

Yeah dima .. 1st of all ma akhad tabi3 enfi3aleh .. this is a debate ... and in a debate u put an idea and the other tells u if he's with this idea or not and why dt worry ma 7adan nfa3al we are debating ? right hassoun ?