What's religion to u?

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by athegan

All christians believe in bothe the new and old testament...don't ask me about the contradiction between the two books...question the author (presumably god )

This question is addressed to christians to answer on ...

Originally Posted by athegan

It doesn't seem aseseyye..at least in practice...A theory that fails in practice is still invalid...show me one muslim success story...btw l bokhare is important to sunnis( I am sure you know that)

you are still theoratically speaking ... it's failing according to you ... it is valid and will be valid ...
success story of a muslim : abousoun
bokhari important to sunnites : رواه مسلم وأخرجه البخاري

Originally Posted by athegan

I am sure the have some sort of holy saying by a prophet or a far cousin to rely on

don't be too sure of that ... otherwise avoid me or i'll have to kill you to win the paradise

Originally Posted by athegan

Do you think their is a line between extreme and moderate? are these two distinct discrete groups or is it more like a degree along the religiosity spectrum ?

There isn't a line, there is a big valey where they hide in it ...

Originally Posted by athegan

I understood your point...atheists don't live happily here and you will not find me in any of my posts saying that the U.S is a haven for secularism or even freedom...This country is as religious as anything can be...?

sorry to hear that ... i hope you find happiness in somewhere else

Originally Posted by athegan

I said homosexuality can't be a majority for the very reason that can lead to the extinction of the species...Yeah I am talking evolution and where is the problem?

the problem is that you were theoratically speaking ...

Originally Posted by athegan

So a higher risk is now a reason for making something illegal or immoral? How about smoking, red meat, trans fat in food and a lot of other things that include a higher risk for tons of diseases?
I will tell you what is immoral...it is a church preaching that condoms are the biggest evil and getting them banned in many african countries. Many kids in africa are gonna die and every catholic in the world is responsible.

I was answering you about the satistics you read, i hope you understood them well, second why homosexuality is immoral for the multi-reasons given before ..
concerning a church disallowing condoms, i don't know if all catholics don't use condoms ...

Originally Posted by athegan

Organic molecules, basically of carbon that were available in the primeval soup tend to lead to the formation of larger molecules that have a resemblance to RNA....
BTW this was reproduced in a LAB and RNA like molecules were formed...yes out of nothing but carbon, oxygen and sunlight...

tab from where came this sunlight ? ... this is becoming who came first ? the egg or chicken ?

Originally Posted by athegan

Too long to answer.... Read this book (if u care enough)
God: The Failed Hypothesis. How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist (Victor Stenger)

will search for it 10x

Originally Posted by athegan

LOL....why they were never invested until westerners discovered them for themselves? maybe it is something about the vague language?

if you have a better explanation ... please i'm eager to read about

Originally Posted by athegan

No...his letters to the rabbi who asked him about his religion are enough for me....they show what he believes in...but it seems like with his scientific theories, it will take some time for people to understand his concept of "god" and "religion"

i quoted something he said and i agreed with ... not analysing Einstein beleif

Originally Posted by athegan

Believe me I know more about christianity than most of christians themselves ESPECIALLY their theology...
I don't see anything else in this part to reply to..."

same here

Originally Posted by athegan

LOL define religious then.....
They will be screwing all of us...just like what u labeled "extremists" are screwing the rest of you....BTW "extremists" are more honest in their approach than moderates since they take things literally
I will be a good person because I want to be a good person...Not because a supreme dictator is watching every small thought that runs through my head...In this stance, like Hitchens said, I am not only and atheist but also an anti-theist...Not only I don't think such a creature exists but also am happy that he/she/it/they doesn't/don't exist.......

actually you are wrong in saying extremists are honest because they take things literally ... they are too wrong because they lack the ability to understand what's meant behind the words ... that's why eno you should have logical sense with your faith ... eno example : the prophet said eno btoftaro when you see with your eyes the moon ... okey 28/9 days have passed and it's raining for several days and no-one is able to see the moon ... bdal sayim or i disobey the words of prophet ? the prophet ma jeib sirit la marassid jawiyye wala chi !!!!
or the prophet said you should wear things ta testro 3awratkon ... eno bil jeans ma btensatar ... w bil dachdeche el bayda btensatar ? eno these are the honest one ? ma kel wa7ad fi yfassir 3ala zaw2o ... so ma beje bloum el din 3ala hal chi ... bloum elli 3am bifassir sa7 aw ghalat .... min elli bi7addid ? allah

Originally Posted by athegan

Again.. I was talking about religious ppl (you ) telling ppl(vcoderz members )
that if everyone turns atheist (me ) chaos will be all over so that the ppl will stick to religion ....I hope the analogy helps

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Originally Posted by athegan

LOL move to sudan...
Do me a favor then if you see anyone with my last name refer them to a real doctor just kidding

dont' worry just give me your last name w first name w esem el father w ra2m el sejjel

Thank You ...

[FriendOfZeus]

Religion to me=Cheese

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by abousoun

you are still theoratically speaking ... it's failing according to you ... it is valid and will be valid ...
success story of a muslim : abousoun
bokhari important to sunnites : رواه مسلم وأخرجه البخاري

It was never successful on the state level...l dawla l abaseyye, the best model, was oppresive and corrupt by any standard...

Originally Posted by abousoun

don't be too sure of that ... otherwise avoid me or i'll have to kill you to win the paradise

wallaw khayye abousoun...i would be glad to be the tool for ur eternal happiness

Originally Posted by abousoun

There isn't a line, there is a big valey where they hide in it ...

you didnt understand the question...

Originally Posted by abousoun

sorry to hear that ... i hope you find happiness in somewhere else

If this is sarcastic it is not will put and if it is serious u didnt know what I meant....

A book I promise u will enjoy: American Theocracy(Kevin Phillips)

Originally Posted by abousoun

I was answering you about the satistics you read, i hope you understood them well, second why homosexuality is immoral for the multi-reasons given before ..
concerning a church disallowing condoms, i don't know if all catholics don't use condoms ...

They are breaking church laws if they do...they are welcome to answer if that is not the case

Originally Posted by abousoun

tab from where came this sunlight ? ... this is becoming who came first ? the egg or chicken ?

I can go down this slope forever...but it will be like asking you to teach me how to treat kidneys here in this thread...I have directed you to Stenger's book...He is one of the few physicists who have tackled the subject...do read it....

Originally Posted by abousoun

if you have a better explanation ... please i'm eager to read about

The ambiguity of the language is the answer... as Ibn Warraq says, you can find in the koran a verse for anything you wanna do (I can get you verses bas 16 hours at work a day are killing me)

Originally Posted by abousoun

i quoted something he said and i agreed with ... not analysing Einstein beleif

The God Delusion(Richard Dawkins) - First Chapter ( again only if you are interested)

Originally Posted by abousoun

actually you are wrong in saying extremists are honest because they take things literally ... they are too wrong because they lack the ability to understand what's meant behind the words ... that's why eno you should have logical sense with your faith ... eno example : the prophet said eno btoftaro when you see with your eyes the moon ... okey 28/9 days have passed and it's raining for several days and no-one is able to see the moon ... bdal sayim or i disobey the words of prophet ? the prophet ma jeib sirit la marassid jawiyye wala chi !!!!
or the prophet said you should wear things ta testro 3awratkon ... eno bil jeans ma btensatar ... w bil dachdeche el bayda btensatar ? eno these are the honest one ? ma kel wa7ad fi yfassir 3ala zaw2o ... so ma beje bloum el din 3ala hal chi ... bloum elli 3am bifassir sa7 aw ghalat .... min elli bi7addid ? allah

I would like to agree with u to save myself from beheading if i ever go to saudi arabia (last case for blasphemy was 1992, the man was beheaded becuz he left islam) but the problem is once cherrypicking in religion starts, what happened to christianity will happen to islam...not a bad thing, but contradicts with the nature of religion...

Originally Posted by abousoun

dont' worry just give me your last name w first name w esem el father w ra2m el sejjel

Ensa law 3am bokhtob ma hek

Originally Posted by abousoun

Thank You ...

Ahlen ....kel youm ta3a

[Mitzidupree]

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.